Raleigh Record, Professional or something else?
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Raleigh Record, Professional or something else?
https://pichostonline.com/view/080513/b3b66e4085.jpg
The pic isn't too good, but do any of you knowldgeable lot know if what bike it is? A Record or Professional perhaps?
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The pic isn't too good, but do any of you knowldgeable lot know if what bike it is? A Record or Professional perhaps?
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That would really be something if it is Joop's bike. He was member of the 81 TDF team.
sm1981 Team 4.jpg
sm1981 Team 4.jpg
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Correction
He won the 1980 Tour de France.
He won the 1980 Tour de France.
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Joop Zoetemelk - stood on the TDF podium six times. Now a bicycle with his name is sporting fenders.
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Ummm, sorry to burst your bubble and all that, but it looks like a lo-fi Nottingham replica of a team bike. I have something very similar - mine's called a Raleigh Team Rapide (531db tubes, same scalloped rear stays). Nice enough, but definitely not team issue.
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well, not very many were actually team issue, even the 753's. Team Replica is a fair moniker. It was, in fact, the nicely finished, scalloped stays that got my attention. Most lower end Raleighs have bullet ends, or full wrap, or fastback. Not scallops. My Team (really belonged to the English Team) and my Pro both have flat caps. I'm not sure I've ever seen the scallops (not an expert, either). Where is your bike located?
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well, not very many were actually team issue, even the 753's. Team Replica is a fair moniker. It was, in fact, the nicely finished, scalloped stays that got my attention. Most lower end Raleighs have bullet ends, or full wrap, or fastback. Not scallops. My Team (really belonged to the English Team) and my Pro both have flat caps. I'm not sure I've ever seen the scallops (not an expert, either). Where is your bike located?
I couldn't resist the team colours - Team Raleighs were an unattainable dream in my teenage years. I posted it here a few months ago - got gently chided by someone for daring to suggest Raleigh branding was all over the place in the 80s (Team Rapide??? I ask you!).
Luker, you'd be surprised at the number of 70s/80s English gems that pop up for sale down here.
I'm half tempted to set up a finding service for stock-starved North American anglophiles like your self - you guys sure seem to appreciate them

Cheers - Jeff
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Thanks everyone. Jeff I like yours, what's it like to ride? I had a trawl on the net last night looking at Raleigh catalogues, but couldn't work out what it was. The bikes in Finland, so might explain things not adding up. I could get this for 120 dollars. Is it worth it?
Here's another rubbish pic
https://pichostonline.com/u/080514/b9ed90c00c.jpg
Here's another rubbish pic
https://pichostonline.com/u/080514/b9ed90c00c.jpg
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Cudak - This could be the one your talking about from about 6 months ago.
the conclusion was that it was sold as just a frameset mostly in the European marketplace. The original owner had it built up from a Frameset his local shop had somehow aquired.



the conclusion was that it was sold as just a frameset mostly in the European marketplace. The original owner had it built up from a Frameset his local shop had somehow aquired.



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Here is the link to the thread about the bike above.
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/352111-raleigh-team-record.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/352111-raleigh-team-record.html
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Don't confuse the Rapide with yours.
The Team Rapide is what Cudak calls the 'oddball "halfway" Team replica', R531 main frame with forged dropouts and reasonable parts (tradtimbo's Team Record is more "up there", just not R753). [Jeff's is heavily upgraded partswise, BTW.]
Yours is lower on the food chain.
As you can read on the TT it's a "Joop Zoetemelk" model, about the same lavel as a "Europa" or a "Flyer".
Gas pipe, cheap wheels. Mostly very simple parts.
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I'd say 50 would definitely be too much, maybe it's worth 20. I wouldn't touch it at all (but that's just me).
The Team Rapide is what Cudak calls the 'oddball "halfway" Team replica', R531 main frame with forged dropouts and reasonable parts (tradtimbo's Team Record is more "up there", just not R753). [Jeff's is heavily upgraded partswise, BTW.]
Yours is lower on the food chain.
Gas pipe, cheap wheels. Mostly very simple parts.
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I'd say 50 would definitely be too much, maybe it's worth 20. I wouldn't touch it at all (but that's just me).
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It's down here in Aotearoa (also known as New Zealand!). Would've been made for the UK market, and possibly imported privately back in the early 80s.
I couldn't resist the team colours - Team Raleighs were an unattainable dream in my teenage years. I posted it here a few months ago - got gently chided by someone for daring to suggest Raleigh branding was all over the place in the 80s (Team Rapide??? I ask you!).
Luker, you'd be surprised at the number of 70s/80s English gems that pop up for sale down here.
I'm half tempted to set up a finding service for stock-starved North American anglophiles like your self - you guys sure seem to appreciate them
Cheers - Jeff
I couldn't resist the team colours - Team Raleighs were an unattainable dream in my teenage years. I posted it here a few months ago - got gently chided by someone for daring to suggest Raleigh branding was all over the place in the 80s (Team Rapide??? I ask you!).
Luker, you'd be surprised at the number of 70s/80s English gems that pop up for sale down here.
I'm half tempted to set up a finding service for stock-starved North American anglophiles like your self - you guys sure seem to appreciate them

Cheers - Jeff
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In which market, what year? Here in the U.S., the non-team Rapide model was the lowest-end roadbike in Raleigh's lineup back in '80, made in Japan for Raleigh, no less. Wouldn't make any sense to market a 531 machine in the U.S. under any name associated with the Rapide.
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Based on the catalog picture, this was a fairly nice bike...the frame description would make one think that the entire frame is 531. Is that true? Was this a Japanese bike?
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Just the three main tubes are 531 db, the rest ist 'high tensile' (whatever they might have understood as 'high').
The Team Rapides were made in England for sure, they have the flag sticker at the bottom of the seat tube which makes that clear; the one pictured has this writing in the middle of the top tube that should say "Handbuilt in England". I think I remember Rapide serial numbers beginning with the "Worksop"-W, but I could be wrong with that.
The Team Rapides were made in England for sure, they have the flag sticker at the bottom of the seat tube which makes that clear; the one pictured has this writing in the middle of the top tube that should say "Handbuilt in England". I think I remember Rapide serial numbers beginning with the "Worksop"-W, but I could be wrong with that.






