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Old 05-28-08 | 02:17 PM
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S/A 3 speed to 700c rims

Has anyone done this? I've got a few 26x1 3/8 or 590 wheels that are tweaked and rusted and have thought about re lacing a hub onto a 700c rim.Any wheel builders want to share details? I'd like to try wheel building and this seems like a good project.Thanks.
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I have a couple of sets under construction...what do you need to know? I use 3 cross single gauge stainless steel spokes. IIRC 14 ga. Some of the older SA hubs need to have a small washer placed under the spoke head. Also figure on swapping out the cog for a larger one to reduce gearing a bit. Biggest beef I have at the moment is trying to find 700c in a 40 hole version, apparrently the CR18 700c 40 hole has been discontinued.

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Originally Posted by wahoonc
Biggest beef I have at the moment is trying to find 700c in a 40 hole version, apparrently the CR18 700c 40 hole has been discontinued.

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Surely it can't be that hard. It took a while, but I found a 40 hole 27 inch rim to go with my AW hub.

The place where I got my 40 hole 27 inch rim has some 40 hole 700c's. https://shop.vendio.com/benscycle/category/63/

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I've got 2) 36 hole AW hubs I can use I think.I was checking out Jenson USA and they have a pretty good wheel building and spoke length site. I might just order up the parts and give it a go.As I wrote earlier, this will be my first shot at lacing so wish me luck.
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You can also use www.sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuilding

I've used this to build several wheels and it worked like a charm.

Just out of curiousity, are you trying to use a 700c rim on your 3 speed? If so you may run into space issues with the existing fenders.
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Originally Posted by wahoonc
I have a couple of sets under construction...what do you need to know? I use 3 cross single gauge stainless steel spokes. IIRC 14 ga. Some of the older SA hubs need to have a small washer placed under the spoke head. Also figure on swapping out the cog for a smaller one to reduce gearing a bit. Biggest beef I have at the moment is trying to find 700c in a 40 hole version, apparrently the CR18 700c 40 hole has been discontinued.

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Reduce the gearing with a smaller cog?
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Reduce the gearing with a smaller cog?
DOH! Brain fart

I meant larger cog....


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If you are converting a ten-speed frame, you can use the small chainwheel to get a good range with the standard cog. I used a 39-18 combo to have 44, 58, 84 inches.
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Originally Posted by Pompiere
If you are converting a ten-speed frame, you can use the small chainwheel to get a good range with the standard cog. I used a 39-18 combo to have 44, 58, 84 inches.
That's my plan.3 speed hub and a 70's 0r 80's steel framed,27",town dump bike. I grew up with these hubs and love em'.Sheldon's site on wheels is excellent-Sheldon's whole site is excellent-What a shame.I've also got Jobs Brandt? book on wheels so I just have to do some math and cough up some dough.I might have to do some paying work sometime too so I'll see what happens.Thanks,Everyone.
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For you guys building your own wheels, how do you determine the final spoke tension? Do you own tension guages?
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What spoke length are you using for the 700c rims? I need to order some parts for my hub, so I'm thinking of getting the spokes at the same time too. I'm going to try out a couple of on-line calculators, but if the numbers don't come out close to what someone else is using, then I'll know I did it wrong.
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I use a 52t ring and a 22t cog on mine and it feels just right. Big gears are more efficient and the parts last longer.
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What spoke length are you using for the 700c rims?
Spoke length is going to depend on which particular rim you are using. Your spoke length calculator should show you this.
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For you guys building your own wheels, how do you determine the final spoke tension? Do you own tension guages?
I don't own a tension guage. I compare to a wheel with known good tension. I also am friends with the LBS and if I am unsure they check a few spokes and tell me how far off I am.
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That's my plan.3 speed hub and a 70's 0r 80's steel framed,27",town dump bike. I grew up with these hubs and love em'.Sheldon's site on wheels is excellent-Sheldon's whole site is excellent-What a shame.I've also got Jobs Brandt? book on wheels so I just have to do some math and cough up some dough.I might have to do some paying work sometime too so I'll see what happens.Thanks,Everyone.

I did the same thing with a ~76 Motobecane except I kept the 27" wheels because I didn't want to shell out for new brakes. I replaced the stock Tourney crank with a Nervar crank and am running 40 tooth chainring with an 18 tooth cog.





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Biggest beef I have at the moment is trying to find 700c in a 40 hole version, apparrently the CR18 700c 40 hole has been discontinued.
Velocity's Dyad 700C series includes a 40 hole drilling. They're on the wide side, say 23 or 24 mm; and they're also more expensive than the Sun CR18, unfortunately. I recently had a S-A AW 36-hole hub laced to a Velocity Synergy rim, and it looks purty.
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Originally Posted by Charles Wahl
Velocity's Dyad 700C series includes a 40 hole drilling. They're on the wide side, say 23 or 24 mm; and they're also more expensive than the Sun CR18, unfortunately. I recently had a S-A AW 36-hole hub laced to a Velocity Synergy rim, and it looks purty.
I looked at the Dyad...but I don't know how it would look on a pseudo club racer. I have a Dawes frame in my size, 25.5", that I am making a 50's style English club racer out of. I have an FG hub that I had planned to use, but it is 40 hole. I also have a 36 hole AG...

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