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Italuminium 10-24-12 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by Mention Man (Post 14874452)
No, Wageningen. Thanks for all the info btw, it is great to learn about the history of this bike..

actually, in Wageningen a road bike as a hauler to the train station makes sense, everything is so far apart out there in the countryside :P

Mention Man 10-24-12 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by Italuminium (Post 14874733)
actually, in Wageningen a road bike as a hauler to the train station makes sense, everything is so far apart out there in the countryside :P

:thumb:

Elev12k 10-24-12 04:21 PM

I always assumed the horizontal slot was a Serier trademark, but recently I encountered an old Presto track with the feature in the Presto shop and Loek Valk claimed it was from Legrand. This left me a bit puzzled. Your bike has nothing from Slesker in it.

Mention Man 10-24-12 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by Elev12k (Post 14876708)
I always assumed the horizontal slot was a Serier trademark, but recently I encountered an old Presto track with the feature in the Presto shop and Loek Valk claimed it was from Legrand. This left me a bit puzzled. Your bike has nothing from Slesker in it.

Any idea what a frame like this would do on Ebay/Marktplaats? I am not really looking into selling it - but might consider if i can get a good price for it.

Mention Man 10-25-12 06:04 AM

I sent an email to Presto, and Loek replied:

Dit frame is zeker niet door Peter Serier, maar door Jan Legrand gebouwd in 1972

Met vriendelijke groet,
Loek Valk

Presto Amsterdam / Oostzaan / Heemskerk

In English: this frame was definitely built by Jan Legrand in 1972.

Zieleman 10-25-12 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by Mention Man (Post 14878059)
I sent an email to Presto, and Loek replied:

Dit frame is zeker niet door Peter Serier, maar door Jan Legrand gebouwd in 1972

Met vriendelijke groet,
Loek Valk

Presto Amsterdam / Oostzaan / Heemskerk

In English: this frame was definitely built by Jan Legrand in 1972.

I don't think this bit of information will qualify as a huge dissapointment...

Mention Man 10-25-12 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by Zieleman (Post 14878423)
I don't think this bit of information will qualify as a huge dissapointment...

Very disappointing news indeed. ;)

Elev12k 10-25-12 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by Mention Man (Post 14877825)
Any idea what a frame like this would do on Ebay/Marktplaats? I am not really looking into selling it - but might consider if i can get a good price for it.

What does a kg old iron atm? This x2. Keep it!

What Loek says sounds plausible. With everything clamped on the frame gives the impression it dates from before Serier-era.

Mention Man 10-25-12 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by Elev12k (Post 14879048)
What does a kg old iron atm? This x2. Keep it!

:thumb: You are right - but seriously any idea?

Elev12k 10-25-12 01:57 PM

It depends on how committed you are to get the max revenue out of it. For 100 euro it is gone within a blink of the eye, for 300 you'll have to try harder.

Mention Man 10-25-12 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by Elev12k (Post 14879710)
It depends on how committed you are to get the max revenue out of it. For 100 euro it is gone within a blink of the eye, for 300 you'll have to try harder.

Thanks. Would never sell it for 100 euro - and if i see what i could buy in return for 300 i would be stupid to sell it as well....
I'll think about it maybe i'll put it up and see what happens....

lotek 10-25-12 02:50 PM

since it's a Legrand frame and not Peter Serier and it's disappointing
you could ship it overseas to me, I don't have a Presto in my dutch collection.

Marty

Mention Man 10-25-12 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by lotek (Post 14879887)
since it's a Legrand frame and not Peter Serier and it's disappointing
you could ship it overseas to me, I don't have a Presto in my dutch collection.

Marty

It is not disappointing at all - as it is a beautiful bike with a nice story behind it and i am very happy with it.

Having said that - make me a good price and i'll ship it to you.;)

Mention Man 10-26-12 11:38 AM

http://fietsen-brommers.marktplaats....fta_ind=5&fs=1

Someone just posted a Presto for sale on Marktplaats.

pullup 10-26-12 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by Mention Man (Post 14882973)
http://fietsen-brommers.marktplaats....fta_ind=5&fs=1

Someone just posted a Presto for sale on Marktplaats.

That should be interesting for you to see what that one will fetch. ;) I still would keep it myself if I were you. What size is yours ?

The seller has a lot of really nice looking stuff and a great looking Zieleman as well :)

Mention Man 10-26-12 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by pullup (Post 14883092)
That should be interesting for you to see what that one will fetch. ;) I still would keep it myself if I were you. What size is yours ?

The seller has a lot of really nice looking stuff and a great looking Zieleman as well :)

Yes i will follow this with interest, it is a pretty cool looking bike! Love the lettering!

My Presto is ct53.

pullup 10-26-12 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by Mention Man (Post 14883164)
Yes i will follow this with interest, it is a pretty cool looking bike! Love the lettering!

My Presto is ct53.

I definitely like the looks of that bike as well if it does't get any higher bids i am gonna be tempted. Strange that the lettering survived and the Presto decals seem to have disappeared.

53, That is what I thought, it is the same size as my blue Presto.

Mention Man 10-26-12 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by pullup (Post 14883198)
I definitely like the looks of that bike as well if it does't get any higher bids i am gonna be tempted. Strange that the lettering survived and the Presto decals seem to have disappeared.

53, That is what I thought, it is the same size as my blue Presto.

Are you Dutch? It says: "in volledig originele staat" which might mean that there never where any Presto decals on the bike, i love this red/yellow/blue coloring on the seat tube.

pullup 10-26-12 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by Mention Man (Post 14883232)
Are you Dutch? It says: "in volledig originele staat" which might mean that there never where any Presto decals on the bike, i love this red/yellow/blue coloring on the seat tube.

I am Dutch :) it says " in volledig originele staat "but I still wonder about that because I can't imagine a Presto being delivered without the Presto decals. This Presto is a little bit unlike others I have seen actually but they really were custom made, later Prestos from the 70's all had the chromed fork with the typical smooth surface as does yours. I certainly like this forkcrown as well :)

Mention Man 10-26-12 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pullup (Post 14883301)
I am Dutch :) it says " in volledig originele staat "but I still wonder about that because I can't imagine a Presto being delivered without the Presto decals. This Presto is a little bit unlike others I have seen actually, later Prestos from the 70's all had the chromed fork with the typical smooth surface as does yours. I certainly like this forkcrown as well :)

Inderdaad. Maybe it has been repainted? I saw some pictures of a Pista which also did not have the decals.http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=280580
http://www.flickr.com/photos/4663623...7627879430471/

Elev12k 10-26-12 01:14 PM

The current highest is maybe just enough for the TA cage alone :p

I don't think it came without cranks originally.

The Zieleman he offers I spotted in Italy, during L'eroica. Neat bike. Unfortunately I can't afford it.

Mention Man 10-26-12 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by Elev12k (Post 14883333)

I don't think it came without cranks originally.

:thumb:

pullup 10-26-12 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by Elev12k (Post 14883333)
The current highest is maybe just enough for the TA cage alone :p

I don't think it came without cranks originally.

The Zieleman he offers I spotted in Italy, during L'eroica. Neat bike. Unfortunately I can't afford it.

Lol, I saw that cage as well. There is no chance that bike will go for that amount :(

Is the Zieleman orange or just a faded red ?

Mention Man 10-26-12 01:34 PM

I did send him an email - i know what he wants for the frame and for the whole bike.

pullup 10-26-12 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by Mention Man (Post 14883412)
I did send him an email - i know what he wants for the frame and for the whole bike.

Please tell :)


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