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Italuminium 05-17-13 03:10 AM

Nice ride don, I don't see any reason not to go :) Oh and BTW, is will you riding the Retroronde van Vlaanderen? Or anyone else of the yurpeans?

Zieleman 05-17-13 03:15 AM


Originally Posted by Italuminium (Post 15635070)
Nice ride don, I don't see any reason not to go :) Oh and BTW, is will you riding the Retroronde van Vlaanderen? Or anyone else of the yurpeans?

I still want to go, but my so called mates have all cancelled (lack of balls for cobblestones, or vice versa)! So it'd be cool to team up for ths one and make it a BF-trip.

paulkal 05-17-13 05:24 AM

I would like to come, but that weekend I already have a 600 planned.

non-fixie 05-17-13 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by Zieleman (Post 15635064)
There's under a month to go, before the youngest local C&V-ride takes place: http://www.tourdhistorique.nl/ Anyone joining in? I already signed up at Stalen Ros last march, which scored me a special beer called 'KoersBier'. It ended up breaking the bottleneck in my fully packed with freshly purchased C&V-goodies backpack. Lucky for me the bottle was upright, so little harm done to the precious (which included a nos Gazelle cardigan from the late 70's/early eighties). The revenue I believe will go to charity btw and the distance of choice will be either 35 or 80 km.

Thanks for reminding me. I'm still not sure I'll be available on 6/16, but I'd like to be there. Officially I'm vacationing with my better half that week, so I'll need to get permission for this one.

BTW, you kept that Gazelle outfit for yourself, did you? ;)

pullup 05-20-13 01:43 AM

I'll join the Haarlem ride and maybe try out my latest find.

This mini Rih Bustraan, almost as found. (Changed the tape and straps and cleaned a little bit)
http://i42.tinypic.com/k1721s.jpg
Just have to make sure how this little sized bike agrees with me. Probably will be allright ;)

Some nice details like the gold lug lining and brazed on bottle cage
http://i41.tinypic.com/30cm0cz.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/6dv9s6.jpg

Serial number 8919 for the non-fixie Rih database :) so it is an early 70,s example

Italuminium 05-20-13 03:27 AM

Nice find! Tiny though. I'm looking forward to the meetup in june.

Woutervanwijk 05-20-13 04:07 AM

Hi guys, wil most likely ride both events. And steffen got another Beautiful RIH in his stable! I will show Up with my own RIH.

Elev12k 05-20-13 06:09 AM

Dito for me. I will be attending both events. Yesterday I trained 140km for Belgium.

Steffen, your RIH is a very nice bike. I find the cage kind of odd. It will be lighter.

pullup 05-20-13 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Elev12k (Post 15644602)
Dito for me. I will be attending both events. Yesterday I trained 140km for Belgium.

Steffen, your RIH is a very nice bike. I find the cage kind of odd. It will be lighter.

Strange isn't it, a one piece steel cage wich seems too have been brazed on the frame and then the bottom part got painted as well. I,ve never seen a mount like this and would't have ordered the build like it is as it looks pretty irreplaceable in case of accidents.

non-fixie 05-20-13 08:40 AM

Can't make Vlaanderen. There'll be a horse trailer on the tow bar instead of my bike rack next weekend. Negotiations regarding Haarlem are still ongoing.

non-fixie 05-20-13 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by pullup (Post 15644327)

Serial number 8919 for the non-fixie Rih database :) so it is an early 70,s example

Thanks for the heads-up. I've added it to the list. '75 or '76, would be my guess. Nice bike, BTW.

verktyg 05-21-13 01:05 AM

My NOS Gazelle frames
 
5 Attachment(s)
I have 2 NOS Gazelle frames that I got from a seller in NL.

The first is a 1973 A Champion Mondial frame:

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=318103
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=318106
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=318107

The second is a 1994 AB Champion Mondial with a pro team number tag. The color is day-glo chartreuse (neon):

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=318104
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=318105

The frame is made with Reynolds 531 Competition tubing.

I've had these for 4-5 years and have all the components to build them up but haven't gotten around to them yet. The 73 is going to be built with mostly French components while the 94 will have all black Shimano parts.

verktyg

pullup 05-21-13 01:25 AM

Beautiful frames both of them but especially that 73 red CM which looks NOS :thumb:

verktyg 05-21-13 01:45 AM


Originally Posted by pullup (Post 15648634)
Beautiful frames both of them but especially that 73 red CM which looks NOS :thumb:

Yep, NOS... :)

Thanks

I'm planing on using an NOS Stronglight crankset, NOS MAFAC brakes Campy NR derailleurs, plus Campy hubs.

verktyg

paulkal 05-21-13 05:34 AM

The red Gazelle looks very nice. Can wait to see pictures of it build up.

non-fixie 05-21-13 04:24 PM

Rob van Oel
 
I really don't need more bikes, so I decided to stop buying, but when I saw this I had a relapse and made an offer. Picked it up tonight and made some pictures in the last remnants of daylight.

It's branded "Rob van Oel". Nothing on the internet about it, other than the confirmation that at least in 1972 and in 1986 there existed a bike shop in Gouda by that name. The first owner had it made to measure and kept it until his death a few years ago. Last week his heirs put it up for sale.

It looks to be a well-made bike from the nicest materials (butted 531, Campagnolo dropouts, first generation Shimano 600 derailleurs and brakes , SR cranks, stems and bar) that was taken care of during its operational life (even the Bluemels Club Specials are still in one piece).

Anyone want to venture a guess as to who made this frame? The serial number seems to be 13578.

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/GroteFoto-7NFY4TZQ.jpg

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/GroteFoto-H7NJH76U.jpg

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/GroteFoto-EMQENEGT.jpg

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/GroteFoto-KE4SM3OP.jpg

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/GroteFoto-ZMR3GZIH.jpg

paulkal 05-23-13 12:28 AM

That is a nice looking bike, never heard of Rob van Oel. I will ask my LBS, maybe they know something more about Rob van Oel.

Zieleman 05-23-13 01:32 AM

Nice score Maarten! I saw it as well, and thought the decals said Rob van Del... Really nice one, even more so now I see it 'up close'. Is that a Campy headset? On the BB under the brazed on cableguide there is a small kind of logo sticking out maybe? I'm no connaisseur, but it kinda reminds me of the early, high end, Belgium made Jan Janssen. But only because of the lugwork and seatcluster, so no real lead there I think.

Zieleman 05-23-13 05:26 AM

3 Attachment(s)

Originally Posted by verktyg (Post 15648644)
Yep, NOS... :)

Thanks

I'm planing on using an NOS Stronglight crankset, NOS MAFAC brakes Campy NR derailleurs, plus Campy hubs.

verktyg

first time i've seen one like my red '78!

just dank 05-23-13 07:01 AM

restoration put to a halt on this beaut. Gazelle Champion Mondial AB
http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7cf34f4c.jpg

non-fixie 05-23-13 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by paulkal (Post 15656917)
That is a nice looking bike, never heard of Rob van Oel. I will ask my LBS, maybe they know something more about Rob van Oel.

Thanks! That would be cool. I've sent an e-mail to another LBS in the region, who seems to have been an apprentice at Rob van Oel's shop in the eighties. I'll report back.

non-fixie 05-23-13 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by Zieleman (Post 15656986)
Nice score Maarten! I saw it as well, and thought the decals said Rob van Del... Really nice one, even more so now I see it 'up close'. Is that a Campy headset? On the BB under the brazed on cableguide there is a small kind of logo sticking out maybe? I'm no connaisseur, but it kinda reminds me of the early, high end, Belgium made Jan Janssen. But only because of the lugwork and seatcluster, so no real lead there I think.

Glad it's not your size then, or we might have ended up killing each other in a bidding war. It is nice indeed, and now I've cleaned it up a bit, it looks even nicer! Headset is a Tange Levin. There is indeed a stamp in the BB shell. I've seen it before. I can't remember where, or what it said, but I seem to remember it was the logo of the BB shell manufacturer.

You're wrong about there being no real lead in the Jan Janssen-like details. Good eye! I just heard back from a man who worked at Rob van Oel's in the eighties and he wrote that the frames were bought in Belgium, probably from a Luc Desmet. So I'll be taking this to the Belgian Bikes thread, and see if our friends there might be able to shed a little more light on the background of this bike.

Apparently it was fairly common practice in those days for Dutch bike sellers to buy frames from Belgian builders to cater to customers who wanted a nice bike, but couldn't or wouldn't shell out for a handmade Dutch frame.

Here it is after some cleaning and adjusting (and holy blessing ;)):

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/GroteFoto-NR4KIDEJ.jpg

Italuminium 05-23-13 02:46 PM

Sweet, sweet bike. With those fenders, it'd be a great bike for Brevets. Just add a big seat bag!

hhliao 05-25-13 03:53 PM

Here is my humble contribution.
Recently put together this mid-70s Gazelle Champion Mondial A-frame with a mishmash of parts. It is my current commuter. The ride is incredible! It seems to be stiffer and more responsive than my mid-80s EM Corsa Extra!

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-h...o/DSC01687.jpg

non-fixie 05-26-13 02:36 PM

Mishmash or not, it looks well-balanced. Nice! Thanks for posting.


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