non-fixie 

Nice, very nice. Both of them. Hope I get to see them in the flesh someday. L'eroica perhaps?

pullup

I will definitly try to enter next year and this probably will be the bike I bring along. Altough the gearing will have to modified from what I read.

pullup

Nice cockpit I tried some gold Deda tape before I decided on the black cotton but that was overdoing the gold theme.

Elev12k

Apart from that Deda is too modern I would say. You made the right decission with cotton.

non-fixie 

That, or your legs ...

Woutervanwijk

pullup, what a nice bike. AGAIN! cool setup with golden parts on it. for this reason i like those french px-10 with the golden mafacs and simplex too. Bernard Thevenet, rode this kind of bike during his tour de france victory of 1975 check this topic: https://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123457

Woutervanwijk

SOME ADVERTS ON BEHALF OF ME ON mp
https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/fietsen-...transfers.html

https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/fietsen-en-brommers/fietsonderdelen/m628127096-racefiets-frame-jaren-60-campagnolo-met-zieleman-transfers.html

pullup

Hi Wouter
I looked for those and i even saw the gold mafac levers go for 50 euro on marktplaats last month with lots of bidding.

You are selling the pretty RIH ?

@ nonfixie: Yeah yeah but even when I was 20 those gravel hills on a 42/19 would have been tough

Italuminium

Hm, I have a set of gold mafacs in the parts bin

non-fixie 

Just to let you know: I already booked my hotel room in Gaiole for October ...

buldogge

...and I have the gold Simplex Retrofrictions and SLJ derailleurs!

...I also happen to love Dutch bikes...so...sounds like one of these Dutchmen with a penchant for gold french bits, needs to come off a Zieleman or Presto for some trading!

wolfhardt

Originally Posted by steinbraWe also tried to date my RIH frame (post 49 to 56) in this thread, but couldnt quite figure it out. See picture: https://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...4&d=1224790238

The number is 791 43, which apparently indicates sometime in the 70ies. But it has welded on wireguides, which is not normal for a bike from that era, if I am to believe our experts here.
I've compiled a list of the RIH's I've found so far on the internet - the ones built in Amsterdam or Groningen, that is - so I could do some educated guesswork regarding build dates. Some of you will recognise your bikes. It would be nice to expand this list.



I have two bikes to add to the list. I'm a Newbie on this forum, so I apologise in advance for any errors I may do.
I am riding the one bike and it is my favourite.

The other bike is a restoration project in progress.
Is anyone still actively working on this list?

non-fixie 

Hello Wolfhardt, welcome to the forum! Yes, I try to keep the list up-to-date in this thread. It would be great if you would add your bikes!

humanreisberg

Does anyone know this guy on marktplaats in person or has any experience with him? Because my decals never arrived (after more than one month). Never lost a single letter in my life. Don't know what to think of it now. Should i send money again to this guy? If so, i don't want to get ripped off a second time.

Regards

Kilian

Elev12k

I would feel confident when buying from him. With those pics it is plausible he does really have the decals. There is a phonenumber and he is near a lot of his audience (Almere-Amsterdam 10km or so). Around Christmas post is a bit slow and moreover post suffered from privatisation. Quality dropped, prices went up and respected postmen became slaves in marginal jobs the dogs don't like bread of. Staff comes and goes. You face your decals are slow, but overhere it became sort of common practice that I can expect Christmas cards coming in until summer - if I am lucky and they are not floating in a canal. I think in Germany you postponed this proces several times and maybe you should think over twice before really entering.

pullup

Hi Kylian,

I think it is the same guy I ordered the Presto decals from last year when I was considering repainting my Presto. He should be legit.

He was really friendly and even send me some extra sets together with some Zieleman sets.
Actually I only used the Presto head tube decal in the end because the painter had the masks of the other ones.

If contacting him fails I can help you out with a set as I am sure I won't be using them.

Luis of Mexico

Hola que tal..


Uff es tu bikla ? Oh esta muy muy Linda que ano es ?? Que tipo de cuadro lleva , como y donde la encontraste ?


Espero comentes un poco mas de la misma

Cuidate mucho.


Luis..

Fiets

Bergh Sport Amsterdam

Bought yesterday. There is not much known about this fantastic frame manufacturer but does someone knows more about the brand and his models?

Woutervanwijk

Thats such a nice bike! Love these lugs. Look at https://wielersport.slogblog.nl/post/1/4537 or https://www.klassiekeracefiets.info/2...van-den-bergh/ or ask Rene rosendahl former rider who knows à lot of early bikes simply cause he rode these bikes back in The days. If you sell, i buy!

Zieleman

^ That looks really cool! Never heard of it, but I'm a youngster. Mp says you got it for a small amount, well done! How does it ride?

pullup

As I said in the thread you opened that is very pretty bike in a colour I like very much and with super cool lugs.

It will be tough finding people that know more about this brand. maybe Wim van der Kaay from Rih would know or Henk Faanhof?

Zieleman

@Fiets: I know of at least one of the guys at MacBike on the Marnixstraat in Amsterdam who knows how and where to contact Van der Kaay (and Paul van Warmerdam probably does as well). So if you in Amsterdam some time soon, I suggest you pay a visit to those guys. They would love to see you classic!

Fiets

@Zieleman and the rest, thanks! Although I'am not living nearby Amsterdam I could always try to get some information from those guys (gentlemen)

Good night!

Woutervanwijk

rene rosendahl really knows. he told me before about bergh. Jan Legrand from presto learned bike building from jaap van de bergh. funny that in those days alot of the brands were connected in way as theacher-apprentice.

s70rguy

There's a good story about Jaap van den Bergh building a frame in his workshop, and this includes a horse, but I don't quite remember the story so maybe it's better someone else digs that up?