Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Do ya think this is a bit overpriced?

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Do ya think this is a bit overpriced?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-17-08 | 02:54 PM
  #1  
stringbreaker's Avatar
Thread Starter
stringbreaker
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,463
Likes: 2
From: wa. State

Bikes: specialized crossroads hybrid 2006 Raleigh Cadent 2 1971 Schwinn Varsity, 1972 Schwinn Continental, 1977 Schwinn Volare (frame)

Do ya think this is a bit overpriced?

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/800690284.html Its not mine, I just thought it was a bit high? I'm wrong maybe?
__________________
(Life is too short to play crappy guitars) 2006 Raleigh Cadent 3.0, 1977 Schwinn Volare, 2010 Windsor tourist. ( I didn't fall , I attacked the floor)

Last edited by stringbreaker; 08-17-08 at 04:08 PM.
stringbreaker is offline  
Reply
Old 08-17-08 | 06:22 PM
  #2  
GMS's Avatar
GMS
Bike Dealer since 1972
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 288
Likes: 71
From: Eastern North Carolina

Bikes: Some of the bikes I've collected: Raleighs ( about 20), Trek ( oldest 1978 770 Columbus tubes), Mercian, Condor, Bob Jackson, Falcon, Holdsworth, Jacques Anquetil, Bianchi, LeMond, Cannondale, Schwinn, Iver Johnson, Dunelt

These have been going pretty high on ebay lately. It is a great touring bike.
This one went for $960

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=019
GMS is offline  
Reply
Old 08-17-08 | 06:28 PM
  #3  
fender1's Avatar
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,567
Likes: 1,065
From: Berwyn PA

Bikes: I hate bikes!

$1,000 is high IMHO, but when you consider that it's closest modern equivalent, the Rivendell Atlantis, goes for $1600 for a bare frame and $3,000 for a complete bike, it is not suprising.
fender1 is offline  
Reply
Old 08-17-08 | 06:48 PM
  #4  
East Hill's Avatar
Lanky Lass
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 21,434
Likes: 7
From: Take a deep breath, and ask--What would Sheldon do?

Bikes: Nishiki Nut! International, Pro, Olympic 12, Sport mixte, and others too numerous to mention.

Dang it, where were the photos? If I'm going to spend good money on a bike, I'd at least like to see what I could be buying .

East Hill
__________________
___________________________________________________
TRY EMPATHY & HAVE LOVE IN YOUR HEART, PERHAPS I'LL SEE YOU ON THE ROAD...
East Hill is offline  
Reply
Old 08-17-08 | 06:58 PM
  #5  
cyclotoine's Avatar
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 8,759
Likes: 19
From: Yukon, Canada
when you consider that a surley long haul trucker goes for under $1000 US complete and is A WAY BETTER bike FUNCTIONALLY speaking. It seems damn high.

Some might argue this but let me start.

Pros of LHT:
Mad tire clearance for bigger tires = better loose surface handling
Surley is double butted 4130 with oversized TT and 1 and 1/8" headtube which = more rigidity and the abaility to easily swap stems and put the bars higher without needing a to buy the one and only stem that could do this on the 720, a nitto technomic. This also means you can run oversized bars on the LHT and ergo bar are harder to fit onto quill stems... larger diamter bars are better for big guys who want a more solid front end, and are running a bar bag.
I know from experience that the surly is more stable than the old skinny tubed lugged frame and this is VERY IMPORTANT when touring loaded.

Personally if you are actually serious about touring buying a vintage 720 for that price is absurd.

On another note if you are buying the 720 to set yourself apart with a unique and cool older frame and only want to commute with relatively light loads or do some light multi day touring then that is different all together. Still from a value point of view it doesn't make a lot of sense.
__________________
1 Super Record bike, 1 Nuovo Record bike, 1 Pista, 1 Road, 1 Cyclocross/Allrounder, 1 MTB, 1 Touring, 1 Fixed gear
cyclotoine is offline  
Reply
Old 08-17-08 | 07:07 PM
  #6  
Mooo's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 741
Likes: 13
Originally Posted by cyclotoine
...
I know from experience that the surly is more stable than the old skinny tubed lugged frame and this is VERY IMPORTANT when touring loaded.

Personally if you are actually serious about touring buying a vintage 720 for that price is absurd.

On another note if you are buying the 720 to set yourself apart with a unique and cool older frame and only want to commute with relatively light loads or do some light multi day touring then that is different all together. Still from a value point of view it doesn't make a lot of sense.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall one of Trek's ads for this bike ca 1980,1981 saying something about it being "this year's model of the bike that John Rakowski rode around the world"

I had a 620 which was essentially the same frame and it was adequate for middlin' tours (1800 miles/21 days at 95lb all up).

It was a very capable bike. I see no reason why it would not be so now.
Of course, these days I'm thinking something like a LeTour might actually be better in some ways.
Mooo is offline  
Reply
Old 08-17-08 | 07:13 PM
  #7  
cyclotoine's Avatar
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 8,759
Likes: 19
From: Yukon, Canada
Originally Posted by Mooo
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall one of Trek's ads for this bike ca 1980,1981 saying something about it being "this year's model of the bike that John Rakowski rode around the world"

I had a 620 which was essentially the same frame and it was adequate for middlin' tours (1800 miles/21 days at 95lb all up).

It was a very capable bike. I see no reason why it would not be so now.
Of course, these days I'm thinking something like a LeTour might actually be better in some ways.
Adequate and capable yes. I have done similar distance on a nishiki international and yes it was adequate but I found myself wanting larger tires on rough loose surfaces and that the stem and bars had a lot of flex which translated into instability. The long headtube on a 25" frame also has a lot more flex. Yes you CAN travel around the world on the trek, but if it is a question of which bike is more versitile and better equipped to do the job, the surly wins hands down. That is what is was emphasizing in my previous post, not that the trek is not a good bike to do long distance touring on, but that for the same price you can buy a new bike with stronger components and a design that has benefitted from 20 years more of bike design and technology development for the same price.
__________________
1 Super Record bike, 1 Nuovo Record bike, 1 Pista, 1 Road, 1 Cyclocross/Allrounder, 1 MTB, 1 Touring, 1 Fixed gear
cyclotoine is offline  
Reply
Old 08-17-08 | 08:17 PM
  #8  
stringbreaker's Avatar
Thread Starter
stringbreaker
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,463
Likes: 2
From: wa. State

Bikes: specialized crossroads hybrid 2006 Raleigh Cadent 2 1971 Schwinn Varsity, 1972 Schwinn Continental, 1977 Schwinn Volare (frame)

I just thought it was overpriced. If I could find a 720 frame I would build it up myself for less than that, I think I have enough spare parts here to do it.
__________________
(Life is too short to play crappy guitars) 2006 Raleigh Cadent 3.0, 1977 Schwinn Volare, 2010 Windsor tourist. ( I didn't fall , I attacked the floor)
stringbreaker is offline  
Reply
Old 08-17-08 | 08:51 PM
  #9  
Mooo's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 741
Likes: 13
Originally Posted by stringbreaker
I just thought it was overpriced. If I could find a 720 frame I would build it up myself for less than that, I think I have enough spare parts here to do it.
Oops, sorry. I think it's more than I'd pay.
But... I think the one in the CL ad is a year or two older than the one in the 'bay link, 81, 82 maybe?
At some point if it's in good condition, it will likely be worth that and more.
But for a rider... you ought to be able to do better, I think, if you're patient.
Mooo is offline  
Reply
Old 08-17-08 | 09:04 PM
  #10  
stringbreaker's Avatar
Thread Starter
stringbreaker
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,463
Likes: 2
From: wa. State

Bikes: specialized crossroads hybrid 2006 Raleigh Cadent 2 1971 Schwinn Varsity, 1972 Schwinn Continental, 1977 Schwinn Volare (frame)

I have at least 2 other builds to do before I can think about something like that. I'm always cruising the ads though. Still looking for a mixte frame and fork that isn't French for the his and hers build
__________________
(Life is too short to play crappy guitars) 2006 Raleigh Cadent 3.0, 1977 Schwinn Volare, 2010 Windsor tourist. ( I didn't fall , I attacked the floor)
stringbreaker is offline  
Reply
Old 08-17-08 | 09:05 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,293
Likes: 1
It's a good bike, but the rear derailer is cheap replacement and the wheels are crappy. I doubt the bike has a lot of miles on it however, otherwise the wheels wouldn't be stock.

As a general rule of thumb, classic bikes are often not a good value compared to new ones (Surly bikes are really the best value bikes of all time in my opinion)

But it's a cool bike for sale in city with lots of bike posers with any extra $1000 laying around. somebody will buy it, somebody will enjoy it.
tacomee is offline  
Reply

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.