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We live in a "buy new" culture. Boo.
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you ever need to offload any of those bikes and they are
about 55 c-t and 55 c-c lemme know
about 55 c-t and 55 c-c lemme know
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I think the OP has a house full of beanie babies bought at the top
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Jamez, I hear ya! Obv. newer bikes have newer technology, etc, and outperform older bikes. I just think you're setting your sights too low by simply edumacating cyclists. Why don'cha enlighten the following:
The '57 Chevy owner: "Hey, an '08 Malibu gets better mileage, handles better...AND HAS CUPHOLDERS!"
The owner of a WWII-surplus Harley: "You know, a Buell Lightning'd run rings around that ol' 45!"
The owner of a '46 Piper Cub: "A new Cirrus seats 4--and has a friggin' parachute!"
Try that out and report back, why'n'cha.
The '57 Chevy owner: "Hey, an '08 Malibu gets better mileage, handles better...AND HAS CUPHOLDERS!"
The owner of a WWII-surplus Harley: "You know, a Buell Lightning'd run rings around that ol' 45!"
The owner of a '46 Piper Cub: "A new Cirrus seats 4--and has a friggin' parachute!"
Try that out and report back, why'n'cha.
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I worked for a short time in a bike shop, it cemented my resolve that new frames/materials/affordable shifting systems are total and complete crap. Give me a British frame made from 531 and dress it with 30 year old Suntour parts please.
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The OP is pure troll, but seeing as this has become a photo thread:
'36 Schwinn Henderson-- one of my all time favorites to ride and to look at. Has been in my family since about 1938-39.
The OP is also bunk-- with balloon tire machines the old ones are actually the best made. I've been over modern reproductions and they don't stand up to the originals. A big part of the reason for that is that the modern parts for these bikes are made at a low price point today-- you just can't buy a first rate hanger set anymore, for example. Nothing holds a candle to those old paint schemes either.
'36 Schwinn Henderson-- one of my all time favorites to ride and to look at. Has been in my family since about 1938-39.
The OP is also bunk-- with balloon tire machines the old ones are actually the best made. I've been over modern reproductions and they don't stand up to the originals. A big part of the reason for that is that the modern parts for these bikes are made at a low price point today-- you just can't buy a first rate hanger set anymore, for example. Nothing holds a candle to those old paint schemes either.
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The OP is pure troll, but seeing as this has become a photo thread:
'36 Schwinn Henderson-- one of my all time favorites to ride and to look at. Has been in my family since about 1938-39.
The OP is also bunk-- with balloon tire machines the old ones are actually the best made. I've been over modern reproductions and they don't stand up to the originals. A big part of the reason for that is that the modern parts for these bikes are made at a low price point today-- you just can't buy a first rate hanger set anymore, for example. Nothing holds a candle to those old paint schemes either.
'36 Schwinn Henderson-- one of my all time favorites to ride and to look at. Has been in my family since about 1938-39.
The OP is also bunk-- with balloon tire machines the old ones are actually the best made. I've been over modern reproductions and they don't stand up to the originals. A big part of the reason for that is that the modern parts for these bikes are made at a low price point today-- you just can't buy a first rate hanger set anymore, for example. Nothing holds a candle to those old paint schemes either.
winner! that bike is beautiful. I have to say that the current cruisers are no where near the quality of the old ones, where are you on that Jamez, now shut up and go bleed my disc brakes. 15 years in a bike shop and you are this angry? STOP HUFFING THE TRI-FLOW
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I don't, though I like to keep that phrase handy on the rare occasion that I find a fixie rider who thinks too much of himself (much like Jamez!). I like the way the phrase rolls off the tongue as well, don't know exactly why.
Just wait until I can get a track frame that fits me...
-Kurt
Just wait until I can get a track frame that fits me...
-Kurt
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I don't, though I like to keep that phrase handy on the rare occasion that I find a fixie rider who thinks too much of himself (much like Jamez!). I like the way the phrase rolls off the tongue as well, don't know exactly why.
Just wait until I can get a track frame that fits me...
-Kurt
Just wait until I can get a track frame that fits me...
-Kurt
even though it sold under reserve--at about 800 bucks. Don't know
if that was too much or too little for a complete bike.
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I think that, as the decades flow by, that many people like to maintain contact with objects that are only one or two steps removed from a creative mind. The craftsman that took a sheet of aluminum and caressed and formed it over a wooden, hand-carved buck to create the front end of a Ferrari 250 GTO was creating art as well as a form of transportation. Classic and Vintage Bikes, and their liquid metal looking components, offer that same emotional connection.
I love the image of a Bicycle Craftsman lining up two slender tubes of steel as he prepares to weld and create a frame that someday will be as capable of amazing physical heroics on the road, as it is able to be a stunning visual feast to our hearts and eyes.
Mr OP, you are undoubtedly right, technical progress is relentless in almost every field of human endevour. My 40 year old mechanical steel swiss watch doesn't keep nearly as accurate time as my 2007 plastic atomic clock synchronized wristwatch. I wear the 07 watch for work. I wear the 40 year old watch for joy. I drive my very reliable leased sedan to work. I jump into my 73 german sports car on weekends to workout the smile muscles in my aging face. I appreciate the technology involved in the making of the Carbon Fiber Bike that passes me on the hills, I just don't need it.
I love the image of a Bicycle Craftsman lining up two slender tubes of steel as he prepares to weld and create a frame that someday will be as capable of amazing physical heroics on the road, as it is able to be a stunning visual feast to our hearts and eyes.
Mr OP, you are undoubtedly right, technical progress is relentless in almost every field of human endevour. My 40 year old mechanical steel swiss watch doesn't keep nearly as accurate time as my 2007 plastic atomic clock synchronized wristwatch. I wear the 07 watch for work. I wear the 40 year old watch for joy. I drive my very reliable leased sedan to work. I jump into my 73 german sports car on weekends to workout the smile muscles in my aging face. I appreciate the technology involved in the making of the Carbon Fiber Bike that passes me on the hills, I just don't need it.
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Welcome to C&V.
Good to know we have another expert around these parts.
However, you shouldn't waste your time with us in here. We actually appreciate the older stuff for what it is, and you have obviously crossed the bridge of higher knowledge and have left us all behind. How about moving along to the Politics and Religion area where your arguments can be appreciated by a more discerning and respectful audience?
(Or, the original post was some sort of paper written for a English or Debate class. If so, it needs some more work.)
Good to know we have another expert around these parts.
However, you shouldn't waste your time with us in here. We actually appreciate the older stuff for what it is, and you have obviously crossed the bridge of higher knowledge and have left us all behind. How about moving along to the Politics and Religion area where your arguments can be appreciated by a more discerning and respectful audience?
(Or, the original post was some sort of paper written for a English or Debate class. If so, it needs some more work.)
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hehehehehehe....
Kurt, that's a great idea for a thread.
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Kurt, that's a great idea for a thread.
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We all live in a "buy-new culture," replete with planned obsolescence and constant technological "advancement," some of us just have different priorities or values.
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The poster seemed to express his disdain for our "buy new culture," not his blind adherence to it. Why do you assume that you understand the motives of most of the people who lurk here?
We all live in a "buy-new culture," replete with planned obsolescence and constant technological "advancement," some of us just have different priorities or values.
We all live in a "buy-new culture," replete with planned obsolescence and constant technological "advancement," some of us just have different priorities or values.
I definitely don't like the "buy new" culture. I drive a car more than 10 years old and most of my baby's toys are from garage sales. I'm going to buy a house pre-1950's in the next year. Unfortunately I work with computers and digital photography so I have to keep up with that somewhat, but even computers have gotten to a point that the 3-5 year old machines still work just fine.
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There are a few counter trends to "buy new" these days I think. For example, people drive around with "used" cars and freely admit the machine is used. They also drive around with logos and stickers on the cars from pure used car dealerships like Carmax. During the 1950s, 60s, and 70s people were not nearly as quick to admit they had bought a used car. There was a hardcore "buy brand new" mentality about cars back then. If the neighbors bought a "used" car, it was something of a scandal because that made it look like they didn't have the money to buy new. Today people buy used cars and tell people about it or have it painted right on the back and no one thinks twice.
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Sorry Netdewt, my bad, when i first typed that i was under the impression i was responding to the guy that started this tread.
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Hey Kurt,
Here's a picture of me, circa 1973-74. Pretty close......
Here's a picture of me, circa 1973-74. Pretty close......
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