How to remove headbadge and replace....
09-14-08 | 09:56 AM
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How to remove headbadge and replace....
I just acquired a Schwinn Peloton frameset in need of repaint. I would like to take the headbadge off while doing so. I don't have any riveting tools so if I drilled the rivets out I don't know how I would put the badge back on later. What do you guys and girls usually do?
Thanks.
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09-14-08 | 11:02 AM
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I would just epoxy the badge back on, then glue in some fake rivet heads in the holes.
09-14-08 | 11:44 AM
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I'd drill out the rivets, then tap the holes with a 2-56, 3-48, or 4-40 tap (depending on rivet hole size in head tube), then use a machine screw to reattach the head badge.
The Paramount badges are attached with small machine screws instead of rivets:
The Paramount badges are attached with small machine screws instead of rivets:
09-14-08 | 01:31 PM
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When I painted my Raleigh, I simply masked the heron. It was a lot of work, but the result was quite good. I didn't even have the tools to remove the rivets, which was why I did this. A friend and I painted it back around '90, and here's what it looks like today, having set out at another friend's house several years. (hence the rust)
I wish I had taken pictures then, because my friend (I may forgive him someday) has let the poor bike go to rust...
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I wish I had taken pictures then, because my friend (I may forgive him someday) has let the poor bike go to rust...
-Jon
09-14-08 | 02:42 PM
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Ya but Neal, you chose a "Wheelsmith" spoke head for the bottom "rivet", still has the "W"! (Aren't I being picky!). Now, if that had been a "Witcomb" badge or something else with a "W" name, wow!
09-14-08 | 03:43 PM
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09-15-08 | 12:31 PM
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That's what I generally use and sliced off spoke heads as faux rivets.
Is it hard to re-remove the head badge a second time after it's been fastened with silicone? The earlier suggestion to use epoxy is a bad idea because it's essentially irreversible.
JV
Is it hard to re-remove the head badge a second time after it's been fastened with silicone? The earlier suggestion to use epoxy is a bad idea because it's essentially irreversible.
JV
09-15-08 | 02:29 PM
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Epoxy is not irriversable. I've been using epoxy in various applications for years, and it's easily removable with a little heat.
09-15-08 | 04:06 PM
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[Epoxy is not irriversable. I've been using epoxy in various applications for years, and it's easily removable with a little heat.
Heat gentle enough not to damage paint? That would depend on the epoxy used, I'd say--some epoxies can withstand engine-block temperatures. What epoxy do you/have you used?
JV
Heat gentle enough not to damage paint? That would depend on the epoxy used, I'd say--some epoxies can withstand engine-block temperatures. What epoxy do you/have you used?
JV
09-15-08 | 06:22 PM
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A thin piece of wire between the headbadge and frame will cut the silicone. The same technique is used in removing badges from cars.
09-16-08 | 05:47 AM
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Seriously. You can get a riveting tool for just about nothing. If it had rivets, put rivets back on. It is stupidly simple to do.
Yes, pop riveters are cheap and easy to use, but most of the headbadges that I've seen used a different style of rivet than those used by pop riveters. Pop rivets will hold the badge on okay but are unlikely to look at all like the original.
Or is there some other riveting tool I'm not aware of?
I'm leaning toward the idea of tapping the holes for screws. Seems like the cleanest solution to me.
JV
Yes, pop riveters are cheap and easy to use, but most of the headbadges that I've seen used a different style of rivet than those used by pop riveters. Pop rivets will hold the badge on okay but are unlikely to look at all like the original.
Or is there some other riveting tool I'm not aware of?
I'm leaning toward the idea of tapping the holes for screws. Seems like the cleanest solution to me.
JV
