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friscorice88 09-28-08 11:58 PM

WTF is wrong with me?
 
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how the hell am i suppose to remove the crank arms??

i took off the chrome caps over the nut and i removed the nut and washer inside. nothing? i tried to pry it i tried to beat it it wont come out..
please see attachment

Sixty Fiver 09-29-08 12:05 AM

You will need a crank puller which is a specialized tool for doing such things... do not pry or try to hammer the crank off.

http://www.parktool.com/products/det...=26&item=CCP-2

friscorice88 09-29-08 12:29 AM

awwwww thanks for the info 65er. you killed what hope i had left in me with my basic hand tools. thanks

lol

prettyshady 09-29-08 12:31 AM

what Sixty Fiver said, you need the crank removing tool. I brought mine from a super market for 5 euros so they can be very cheep.

I just removed a crank for you, here's how

http://www.prettyshady.com/1/media/0...k/DSC_0110.JPG
remove pedals, with oil and 15 mm spanner rotating the oppersite direction to the way the wheels go round in forward motion

http://www.prettyshady.com/1/media/0...k/DSC_0111.JPG
This is the bolt that holds the cranks on to the BB. remove it,

http://www.prettyshady.com/1/media/0...k/DSC_0113.JPG
This end of the crank tool does that job

http://www.prettyshady.com/1/media/0...k/DSC_0114.JPG
leaves you with this

http://www.prettyshady.com/1/media/0...k/DSC_0116.JPG
screw threaded end of tool into crank,

http://www.prettyshady.com/1/media/0...k/DSC_0117.JPG
screw the pokey end in

http://www.prettyshady.com/1/media/0...k/DSC_0118.JPG
with big spanner

http://www.prettyshady.com/1/media/0...k/DSC_0119.JPG

http://www.prettyshady.com/1/media/0...k/DSC_0121.JPG
the more it screws in, the further the crank gets pushed

http://www.prettyshady.com/1/media/0...k/DSC_0122.JPG
congratulations

friscorice88 09-29-08 12:41 AM

WOW pretty shady... you are awesome. you should get your post stickied. i'm new here is there a diy section??

Marrock 09-29-08 01:18 AM

I got a cheapy little gear puller from the auto parts store that I'm using till I can afford some proper tools.

This whole 'no job' thing really blows goats.

Wino Ryder 09-29-08 01:19 AM

Great pics and tutorial on that crank removal.

Its the only way to do it right.

USAZorro 09-29-08 01:20 AM

DIY section? Not so much, but Park Tool has quite a thorough web site that gives good explanations and illustrations of how to do most maintenance and common repair tasks. Here.

Sheldon Brown's site has lots of helpful info as well.

urodacus 09-29-08 03:08 AM

don't use a gear puller unless you want to gouge the back of the cranks beyond repair. use the proper tool, it's not too expensive. or go to your LBS and use theirs. or roll a grandmother on pension day. just don't use a gear puller.

Panthers007 09-29-08 03:49 AM

Yes - Park Tool is your friend:

http://www.parktool.com/repair/byreg...ageField2.y=14

You should bookmark the home page. You'll be going there often, I'm sure.

Little Darwin 09-29-08 05:10 AM

One comment for the truly lazy... You don't actually need to remove the pedals.

However, if you are going to actually reassemble the crank, it is nice to do it without the pedals in the way. The extra steps do actually make it easier. ;)

CardiacKid 09-29-08 06:30 AM

Just a word of caution. I assume from your tone that you are planning on converting this bike to a single speed or fixie. You need a plan. Go to Sheldon Brown's website. There is a lot of good DIY information there. One tip. When you go to the store to buy the crank puller, buy a freewheel removal tool as well. This is totally different than a cassette remover. Each freewheel manufacturer uses a different tool, and the tool in some cases changed over the years. It might be a good idea to just take the whole wheel with you to the lbs.

127.0.0.1 09-29-08 06:41 AM

you can also get the crank off (a built and functional bike)

by taking out the middle bolt one full turn,
then go ride the bike up hills until the crank loosens a bit. undo bolt another
turn and ride some more until it is evidently loose. it won't
hurt anything as long as you remember not to -really- ride like that

if the crank it really stuck on there it could take forever to do...and it may still
stay stuck.

wrk101 09-29-08 07:14 AM

+1 Use a proper crank arm puller, or take it to your local bike shop and they will probably do it cheap. Using generic tools will only end up damaging the parts.

cudak888 09-29-08 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by prettyshady (Post 7565822)
what Sixty Fiver said, you need the crank removing tool. I brought mine from a super market for 5 euros so they can be very cheep.

http://www.prettyshady.com/1/media/0...k/DSC_0114.JPG
leaves you with this

A word of caution to the OP: The corresponding washer to that nut appears to be still wedged in the crank in this photo. Make sure you remove it before installing the extracting tool, or you may strip the threads on the crank.

-Kurt

Marrock 09-29-08 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by urodacus (Post 7566013)
don't use a gear puller unless you want to gouge the back of the cranks beyond repair. use the proper tool, it's not too expensive. or go to your LBS and use theirs. or roll a grandmother on pension day. just don't use a gear puller.

Not quite true, my cranks don't have a mark on them and I've used the puller a few times on them.

And don't you think that if I'd had the money to get a proper crank tool I would have?

Hells, the first time I pulled the cranks off this thing I had to use a pickle fork meant for removing ball joints from a car.

Not everyone has money falling out of their ass, some of us just have to make do with what we have.

evwxxx 09-29-08 08:50 AM

Hopefully on this Peugeot he will not need the stronglight threaded crank puller,,,

mtnwkr 09-29-08 09:06 AM

My crank puller was 6 bucks at the LBS. They sell a whole line of tools under the Avanir brand that are good enough for a diy guy like myself. Its one of my favorite tools.

Sixty Fiver 09-29-08 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by evwxxx (Post 7567140)
Hopefully on this Peugeot he will not need the stronglight threaded crank puller,,,

That is a Sakae SR crank on what appears to be a mid eighties Peugeot... they are a standard threaded crank.

WNG 09-29-08 09:49 AM

Santa Claus is town early for you folks in need of a great quality crank puller on the cheap....

I picked one of these up to supplement my Sugino puller. It's made by the same people who design Snap-On tools. It's high quality. Best thing is the closeout price. $2.95.

http://www.bikeman.com/CC-TLCRANK1.html

arborohs 09-29-08 11:32 AM

you can also get the crank off (a built and functional bike)

by taking out the middle bolt one full turn,
then go ride the bike up hills until the crank loosens a bit. undo bolt another
turn and ride some more until it is evidently loose. it won't
hurt anything as long as you remember not to -really- ride like that

if the crank it really stuck on there it could take forever to do...and it may still
stay stuck.

Wow, this is some bad advice. It will oblong the hole in the crankarms. Only do this if you don't want to use the crankarms again.

prettyshady 09-29-08 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by arborohs (Post 7568397)
Wow, this is some bad advice. It will oblong the hole in the crankarms. Only do this if you don't want to use the crankarms again.

This advice comes under 'removal of cranks with damaged threads ' on the park tools website with a warning about ruining the arm. Yesturday I removed some cheap cranks with a damaged thread using a hammer. Not recomended but it felt good to get the crappy part off and left the crank hole sqaure

Antipodes 09-29-08 01:00 PM

Yes, a proper crank puller is of paramount importance if you don't want your cranks at least partially ruined. A pickle fork or tie rod separator is the one infallible ******* tool that I use in the event of a truly stuck crank with messed up threads. At this point, removal of the crank is the most important thing and what happens to it in the process is of little concern.

dvs cycles 09-29-08 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by friscorice88 (Post 7565816)
awwwww thanks for the info 65er. you killed what hope i had left in me with my basic hand tools. thanks

lol

Crank puller IS a basic hand tool for bikes. I've had one and bought many since 1972.;)

RobbieTunes 09-29-08 07:23 PM

I asked to borrow my LBS's crank arm puller, and he sold it to me for $8 and bought himself a new one. That's how I got a lot of my tools. He can upgrade his stuff, and I can get tools that won't be used so hard, still have some life in them. I'll die before they do.

Then again, there's something very satisfying about hitting a frustrating part with a hammer. No wonder I have so many laptops.


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