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Dr.Deltron 10-15-08 12:36 AM

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kpug505 10-15-08 12:43 AM

What about old Cragar rims? Granted the chrome flaked off if you looked at them wrong but plated they were........Maybe they were magnesium? That's ferrous too though isn't it?

Wino Ryder 10-15-08 01:18 AM

No you can definitely chrome plate aluminum, so lets get that settled. Reason I know?

Back in the day (mid 80's) I spent well over a thousand bucks getting chrome work done on a custom Harley 'sportster' I had that was a show bike. The bike was a '75 XLCH with drag pipes and I had the aluminum forks (superglide) completely chromed along with the aluminum lower end cases and other aluminum bits and pieces. It was a beautiful bike and I'm sorry as the day is long that I sold it.

So yeah, you can chrome aluminum.

purevl 10-15-08 03:06 AM

Before you chrome steel you plate it in copper and usually nickel as well, neither of which is a ferrous metal. If copper will stick to it, you can chrome it (including plastic!). Anodizing is a different process altogether from plating.

T-Mar 10-15-08 05:53 AM

Shimano used to apply a shiny finish some of their boom era, aluminum components, though I hesitate to call it chrome.

melville 10-15-08 06:32 AM

Cambio Rino did a whole gruppo in the 80s with chrome plated alloy parts. IIRC the stuff was mostly Campy copy stuff, at about a GS/Triomphe level of quality.

Sangetsu 10-15-08 06:42 AM

I had the wheels on my Yamaha R1 polished and then chrome plated. The chrome was much easier to keep clean than the aluminum, and much more resistant to corrosion (though chrome plated aluminum is prone to pitting if not done properly, and even then, it should be kept clean and waxed).

Chrome plating is an electro-chemical process, and aluminum does conduct electricity.

mainducoyote 10-15-08 06:55 AM

Sold these this summer , definitely chromed...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3270/...3a17888d_b.jpg

bibliobob 10-15-08 08:53 AM

Chromed alloy rims were definitely available in the BMX world of the early 80s, and I think were made by Araya. It was definitely one of the big, quality, mainstream brands.

unworthy1 10-15-08 08:57 AM

seems to me that the difference between the classic "triple chrome plating" of steel that all the Harley guys and classic car nuts swear by (and that's copper, followed by nickel, followed by chromium) and aluminum chroming is that aluminum never has the layers of copper and nickel but just the chromium directly applied. It does not seem to stick very well, but that may be due to cleanliness of the skill of the plater. I know I've paid to have plastic parts plated with something called "chrome" and it's not a process that involves heating the plastic (obvious) or passing an electric current through it (obvious, too) but is done with "evaporation" in a chamber or cabinet, and it puts an extremely thin layer of metal on the plastic (also prone to peeling off, as we know from auto trim and model kits).

Saintly Loser 10-15-08 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by mainducoyote (Post 7668522)
Sold these this summer , definitely chromed...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3270/...3a17888d_b.jpg

The big chainring, maybe. Those crankarms and the spider look like unplated aluminum.

mainducoyote 10-15-08 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by Saintly Loser (Post 7670150)
The big chainring, maybe. Those crankarms and the spider look like unplated aluminum.

yes , maybe I should have specified

SingeDebile 10-15-08 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by lauren (Post 7670235)
That's why I suggest clear powder coat if you go with bare Al, makes it exceptionally easy to clean.

which is why you basically cant get un-coated AL bike parts nowadays... its always clear anodized, which is a mixed blessing as anyone thats tried to go back and polish something that has been clear coated like this knows. Basically it looks great when new, and resists scratches etc.. better there bare AL but the moment it does get scratched there is no going back without a huge hassle.

Grand Bois 10-15-08 01:41 PM

http://www.atlaschrome.com/chrome.html

ilikebikes 10-15-08 02:15 PM

I had a set of chromed alluminum bullhorns on one of my ss bikes, chromed alluminum, not polished alluminum, chromed ;)

well biked 10-15-08 02:40 PM

FWIW, I just bought a Cinelli XA stem on ebay, NOS in the box. I noticed on the box it says "made from light forging alloy, chrome plated components."

Dr.Deltron 10-15-08 03:10 PM

As my wife likes to say;

"All of us is smarter than any one of us!" :thumb:

Thanks for the enlightenment. :)

Fissile 10-15-08 05:40 PM

Caswell sells chrome plating kits for the hobbyist, and yes, you can chrome plate aluminum.

See here:

http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/zincate.htm

luker 10-15-08 07:43 PM

ya, I'm looking at replacing the wheels on my Corvette with chromed duplicates.

And...Pirates > ninjas, lauren.


Aargh.

repechage 10-15-08 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by luker (Post 7673531)
ya, I'm looking at replacing the wheels on my Corvette with chromed duplicates.

Aargh.

Keep those wheels for the Summer, will you.

Chrome on Aluminum is done, polish, acid etch, then copper, nickel then chrome. hopefully with little polishing afterward, as too much heat can set up for problems of adhesion later.

By the way, Jaguar stamps a special serial number into the alloy wheels it chromes PRIOR to them being plated, to tell them apart from the dealer sublet wheels that frequently fail much faster as the process was forced and or steps skipped. I'm sorry, your wheels were aftermarket, no warranty for you, will cost you $400. per wheel to have them stripped and done right

Now, the thermal expansion of the various layers and the base can play havoc, as can microscopic voids in the plating layers. Or a 'through" scratch can really get the peeling going.

ICS did this to some Campagnolo parts years ago, seen on various show bikes too.

Pretty? not for me. Bling? perhaps. durable? Let's pretend.

Grand Bois 10-15-08 08:13 PM

The rings are not chromed.

http://inlinethumb23.webshots.com/39...600x600Q85.jpg

luker 10-15-08 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by repechage (Post 7673675)
Keep those wheels for the Summer, will you.

Chrome on Aluminum is done, polish, acid etch, then copper, nickel then chrome. hopefully with little polishing afterward, as too much heat can set up for problems of adhesion later.

By the way, Jaguar stamps a special serial number into the alloy wheels it chromes PRIOR to them being plated, to tell them apart from the dealer sublet wheels that frequently fail much faster as the process was forced and or steps skipped. I'm sorry, your wheels were aftermarket, no warranty for you, will cost you $400. per wheel to have them stripped and done right

Now, the thermal expansion of the various layers and the base can play havoc, as can microscopic voids in the plating layers. Or a 'through" scratch can really get the peeling going.

ICS did this to some Campagnolo parts years ago, seen on various show bikes too.

Pretty? not for me. Bling? perhaps. durable? Let's pretend.

Ah. New to this Corvette stuff. You are saying that the factory chromed aluminum wheels are not durable? I dunno, myself (sorry about the leetle hijack).

Aargh...


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