Peugeot BB- French, BSA, or Swiss?
01-29-09, 11:18 AM
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Peugeot BB- French, BSA, or Swiss?
I have a 1980 UO-10 that I'm converting into a single-speed wet weather ride. The original Stronglight 104 CS is nice but ultimately I'd like to use the snazzier 49 or 93 and a shorter spindle than the 121 on there to better my chainline and minimize the ham-fisted redish I"ll be embarking on.
I read that Peugeot BBs started going BSA and Swiss threading starting in 1980 - how can I tell what I've got here on mine? Only clue I can offer is there's an 'H' stamped on the outside face of the adjustable cup. I've had a hell of a time adjusting it proper too, never finding the exact right torque.
If it's a BSA threaded BB, should I just save myself the trouble of finding French stuff and go all Japanese with the BB and crankset?
If it's a French threaded BB, am I looking at a world of hurt here with any attempts to replace and adjust?
I read that Peugeot BBs started going BSA and Swiss threading starting in 1980 - how can I tell what I've got here on mine? Only clue I can offer is there's an 'H' stamped on the outside face of the adjustable cup. I've had a hell of a time adjusting it proper too, never finding the exact right torque.
If it's a BSA threaded BB, should I just save myself the trouble of finding French stuff and go all Japanese with the BB and crankset?
If it's a French threaded BB, am I looking at a world of hurt here with any attempts to replace and adjust?
01-29-09, 11:33 AM
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Okay, I just found a good site and now I know the BB checks out as French. So I guess my main question is: are these french threaded parts hard enough to procure that I should just make do with what I have? Maybe it's easier to get picky when it's Shimano and Suntour and whatnot...
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Okay, I just found a good site and now I know the BB checks out as French. So I guess my main question is: are these french threaded parts hard enough to procure that I should just make do with what I have? Maybe it's easier to get picky when it's Shimano and Suntour and whatnot...
I also have a Puegeot that I will be going through.
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1980 should be French but there's also a chance it could be Swiss.
Swiss cups can be identified (not always) by looking for 1 of 2 features:
1. A thin line engraved around the circumference of the cup.
2. gold coloring/tinting
Swiss cups can be identified (not always) by looking for 1 of 2 features:
1. A thin line engraved around the circumference of the cup.
2. gold coloring/tinting
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I'd go with this and the 114mm Stronglight spindle that's also on eBay if I was building another SS Peugeot. It's pricey, but 93's aren't cheap.
https://cgi.ebay.com/TA-Professional-...1%7C240%3A1318
You could also modify a double. That's a 115mm spindle with no offset.
https://cgi.ebay.com/TA-Professional-...1%7C240%3A1318
You could also modify a double. That's a 115mm spindle with no offset.
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My 1980 PKN-10 was Swiss-threaded, with a gold-colored fixed cup.
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Oh thaaaat offset. I haven't done much work with BBs outside of cleaning and repacking. They don't seem to list offset measures in many descriptions of spindles though do they?
I checked the fixed cup for a gold tinge, but no not really. How gold are we talking here?
I checked the fixed cup for a gold tinge, but no not really. How gold are we talking here?
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If French or Swiss Phil Wood lists BB cups for both. These work with all the Phil Wood bottom brackets and he has a wide range of spindle lengths, stmmetrical and offset available.
https://www.philwood.com/BB-Tools.htm
About the best price I have found for the Phil Wood bottom brackets and cups is lickbike.com.
If a Phil Wood BB and cups cannot solve your problem then good luck!
https://www.philwood.com/BB-Tools.htm
About the best price I have found for the Phil Wood bottom brackets and cups is lickbike.com.
If a Phil Wood BB and cups cannot solve your problem then good luck!
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It's just not necessary to spend more on a bottom bracket than the bicycle is worth. I wouldn't spend that much on a BB for my custom painted PX10. The OP is converting a UO10 to a single speed.
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