Does something look wrong with this frame?
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Does something look wrong with this frame?
Does something look wrong with this frame? The angle of the head tube looks way too steep but I don't see any damage in the pictures. What do you think?
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...E:B:SS:US:1123

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...E:B:SS:US:1123
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1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo(frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame),
1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
1974 Peugeot UO-8, 1988 Panasonic PT-3500, 2002 Bianchi Veloce, 2004 Bianchi Pista
1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo(frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame),
1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
1974 Peugeot UO-8, 1988 Panasonic PT-3500, 2002 Bianchi Veloce, 2004 Bianchi Pista
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Looks like it may be bent but you cannot ell with all the lines of the building behind it, there is a lot of optical illusion possible.
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I'm pretty sure that bike in the built up link is not the frame for sale. I'm pretty sure that's a forum member's bike and it looks smaller than the one for sale. Although they are both in Sweden I think. But look at that link - the head tube and the seat tube look parallel. In the eBay photo they appear to be dramatically different.
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1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo(frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame),
1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
1974 Peugeot UO-8, 1988 Panasonic PT-3500, 2002 Bianchi Veloce, 2004 Bianchi Pista
1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo(frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame),
1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
1974 Peugeot UO-8, 1988 Panasonic PT-3500, 2002 Bianchi Veloce, 2004 Bianchi Pista
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That is a tough one, could be built that way on purpose for a rider with a long torso or something? Still that would be a cop-out move on the builders part to just change the seat tube angle, I dunno... weird for sure.
The frame and fork is definitely turned in the photo and the rear end is pointed slightly away from the photographer. If you have a frame and fork with headset sitting around you could experiment taking photos to try and get the same effect (I know I would if I was thinking about buying this bike). I presume you took the seller up on their offer for more photos?
The frame and fork is definitely turned in the photo and the rear end is pointed slightly away from the photographer. If you have a frame and fork with headset sitting around you could experiment taking photos to try and get the same effect (I know I would if I was thinking about buying this bike). I presume you took the seller up on their offer for more photos?
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I'm pretty sure that bike in the built up link is not the frame for sale. I'm pretty sure that's a forum member's bike and it looks smaller than the one for sale. Although they are both in Sweden I think. But look at that link - the head tube and the seat tube look parallel. In the eBay photo they appear to be dramatically different.
And the seller claims "ORIGINAL PAINT AND THE ORIGINAL DECALS."
Something smells in Sweden and its not the crayfish.
EDIT 2: Ok, the seller only claims that the build link "shows a nice complete bike" and does not explicitly claim it is the same bike. I would still ask for more pics of the head tube and underside of the down tube.
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Last edited by retrofit; 03-15-09 at 10:24 PM. Reason: add info
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LOL...I would but as my company just cut our base pay 10% for our division for the next month in addition to the 5% (probably permanent) cut that corporate had already cut it for the entire company, I won't be bidding on it. Hell I might be eating ramon nooddles and stale bread for the next couple of months. Plus it's about 2cm larger than I would want for that frame.
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1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo(frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame),
1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
1974 Peugeot UO-8, 1988 Panasonic PT-3500, 2002 Bianchi Veloce, 2004 Bianchi Pista
1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo(frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame),
1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
1974 Peugeot UO-8, 1988 Panasonic PT-3500, 2002 Bianchi Veloce, 2004 Bianchi Pista





