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janos 05-07-09 07:07 PM

Can somebody recognize this frame?
 
Hello
I have problem to recognize frame.I have watch frame several hours from web, but ...
Can anybody help me with problem. I buy bike from Holland.


http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4145892.jpg

regards Jan

Amani576 05-07-09 07:43 PM

I was thinking Gitane, but I'm not so sure. Perhaps Cilo? Or it could be a pretty obscure builder. I've never seen lug cut outs like that or a fork crown with a, well, crown on it.
-Gene-

rhenning 05-07-09 07:43 PM

When are you going to show a picture of the whole frame. I only see a head tube with a part of a fork showing. Roger

unworthy1 05-08-09 12:53 AM

Mercier used a crown, but it was a different crown, and I don't think I've ever seen those lug cut-outs before...so, nothing. Looks to be a pretty nice bike so far, more pics and some measurements (BB threading, seatpost size, etc.) would help.
No wait, I HAVE seen those lugs before, but I'm drawing a complete blank. Somebody with a better memory will recognize them.

Mike552 05-08-09 01:21 PM

The lugs look Japanese. Tange Infinity double-butted 8/5/8, if I had to guess.
Tell me more about that headset. Your picture is blurry so I cannot tell if that is a Campagnolo or if it is a Japanese copy made by SR.

noglider 05-08-09 01:25 PM

I think it's Japanese, too.

K8drums 05-08-09 06:43 PM

I have a UFO too
http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/w...8059_45488.jpg
it says Lobo sport on the side but a google search tells me nothing about it. It is currently set up as a single speed with 700c tires, but that's not what it it was originally...

East Hill 05-08-09 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by K8drums (Post 8883478)
I have a UFO too
http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/w...8059_45488.jpg
it says Lobo sport on the side but a google search tells me nothing about it. It is currently set up as a single speed with 700c tires, but that's not what it it was originally...

That poor bike looks very sad :( .

East Hill

K8drums 05-08-09 11:22 PM

I know - I've got everything off it now except the stem and headset - it looks less pathetic now. It appears that the drop outs are a bit bent of both front and rear. I just need to know if this frame is worth saving or if I should scrap it. Also that wheel is huge, more like a 29"

randyjawa 05-09-09 04:40 AM

Proctor-Townsend???
 
I recently acquired a great bike, in fact two great bikes and both have crown logos. The first is a Proctor and the second a Proctor-Townsend. The Proctor has crowns in the decals and the P-T has crowns cut into some of the lugs and these little crown windows are similar to yours.

It is a good idea to offer good quality pictures of bicycle frame set details (head tube lugs, seat lug, bottom bracket, drops) ensuring that detail is good. A full side shot is of little value to me. I like to look at the detail.

Also, knowing where the person is from might be a big help. For example, if you lived in Edmonton, Alberta Canada my guess about being a Proctor would be much better supported since these nice old bicycles were built in Edmonton for a few years.

janos 05-09-09 11:29 AM

More picture

http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4169246.jpg
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4169243.jpg
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4169233.jpg
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4169226.jpg
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4169275.jpg
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4169280.jpg
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4169289.jpg
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4169350.jpg
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4169363.jpg
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4169370.jpg
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=4169381.jpg

K8drums 05-09-09 11:47 AM

hi again
I feel kinda like im hijacking this thread - if thats uncool say so and ill start a new one. I just didnt want to start a new one when this one seemed appropriate. anyhow here are some new pics:
http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/w...ero/3tubes.jpg
http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/w.../forkcrown.jpg
http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/w...8zero/lobo.jpg
http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/w...8zero/full.jpg

I live in southern AZ and this was found abandoned on a sheep ranch - most likely used by illegals crossing the border from mexico (lots of abandoned bikes are found this way)
I anxiously await any info anyone has - thanks!

janos 05-10-09 03:44 AM

All parts is shimano 600, in frame is seathigh 56cm.
No stamp in frame.

miamijim 05-10-09 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by K8drums (Post 8886328)
this was found abandoned

It was?

K8drums 05-10-09 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by miamijim (Post 8889572)
It was?

sarcasm?

East Hill 05-10-09 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by K8drums (Post 8890207)
sarcasm?

Yes. I think being found on a sheep ranch qualifies as being abandoned, myself :lol: .

unworthy1 05-10-09 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by janos (Post 8889510)
All parts is shimano 600, in frame is seathigh 56cm.
No stamp in frame.

*Might* be Japanese, I'm still wracking my brain trying to remember where I saw those lug cut-outs before: it had to be in this forum but years ago. Maybe in another year I'll recall it...

noglider 05-11-09 01:09 PM

K8drums, please put that bike out of its misery.

janos, that's a very nice bike, but it has been abused. Please fix it up or have someone do it for you.

K8drums 05-11-09 01:12 PM

aww...I like a project...do you really think its dead? I hate to add to the landfill when it has such potential

noglider 05-11-09 01:26 PM

It might ride well, and it might prove durable, but for about the same amount of money, you could get something better. I picked up a 1971 Raleigh Super Course from the garbage. Of course, I was lucky, but patience can pay off. Ask your police department if they hold auctions. I've bought many bikes at the local police auctions. I have a hobby of restoring and donating old bikes. Also, ask your recycling center what they do with bikes. They may have a few you can pick through.

prettyshady 05-11-09 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by janos (Post 8886254)

french stem (velobase)

unworthy1 05-11-09 01:39 PM

^good eye!^, now the question: did Philippe make that stem in just 22.0 or also in 22.2? Maybe Jon Fischer knows

prettyshady 05-11-09 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by unworthy1 (Post 8897577)
^good eye!^, now the question: did Philippe make that stem in just 22.0 or also in 22.2? Maybe Jon Fischer knows

I have one, but I am not sure of the size or if they made both sizes

noglider 05-11-09 03:49 PM

I had one of those Phillippe stems, too, on a French bike, of course. The bike was stolen from my apartment!

Roll-Monroe-Co 05-11-09 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 8897338)
K8drums, please put that bike out of its misery.

Nonsense! Fix er up. Er, I haven't really been reading this thread. Is the frame straight?


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