Why?
05-19-09 | 03:21 PM
#101
hateful little monkey
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,274
Likes: 0
From: oakland, ca
One of the best reasons for deciding to use a nice handbuilt frame for a conversion is that it is a nice handbuilt frame. If you honestly can't tell the difference in ride and handling between your average cromo bikeboom frame and a nice handbuilt, I can see why you wouldn't bother converting one, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I have a conversion that I'm very fond of, built around a 3rensho. It was a great bike when it was geared, and it's great as a fixed gear. Nothing about the ride or handling has changed, they still kick all kinds of ass, the only difference is in the drivetrain.
A garage sale univega, while lugged and steel, doesn't feel anywhere near the same to me. That's why I convert nice bikes : because I like nice bikes.
05-19-09 | 03:49 PM
#102
Buh'wah?!
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,086
Likes: 2
From: Charlottesville VA
Bikes: 2014 Giant Trance
Simply put, we've seen lots of GOOD bikes forever stripped of their gears, and any time we hear of a decent bike going down that road there is a chance that the owner will one day add an even nicer bike to the Drewed ranks. So we get defensive due to those fears, jaded by past experiences and examples. I'm not going to stand in anyone's way of a conversion if it means they are going to ride the bike, treat it with some respect and hopefully keep it in a form that can one day be restored to geared ability.
And to the OP, forgive me if I fall under your nasty comments distinction. I simply just get annoyed when people try to incite their ideas of ultimate right and wrong on other people. My tongue (or fingers in this case) can get sharp.
-Gene-
05-19-09 | 09:16 PM
#104
Newbie
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 62
Likes: 9
Looks like I came here way too late. I'll chip in anyway.
Why?
Dead souls.
Many a long dead master craftsmen are turning in their grave,
wondering what wrong they must've done to deserve this hellish
punishment lashed out by the legion of Drewsters.
They search in their soul, day and night.
They find small sins but, nothing befitting this unbearable torment.
All the care. All the attention to detail. All the hard work: their life work.
Its undone, ruined, belittled. The work they've poured their soul into.
Horribly mutilated, brutalised with a file, garishly spray bombed and
thrown in velocipede hell alive. All without a thought. Without hesitation.
The soul-wrecking goes on, no end in sight.
All the while, clowns rejoice in the atrocity exhibition.
Rolling idiocy roams the street. Business as usual, world without end.
Gosh, I sux at writing...
Anyway, nothing personal. Absolutely no offence intended.
I'm in a bit of pessimistic mood today. So, the thought of
another C&V beaut getting her raison d'etre denied and dumped
into the hipster kettle makes me more depressed is all.
<rant>
I find fixie conversion a rather disrespectable and tasteless thing to do.
But, ultimately, its the owners call. Nothing I can do.
The horrible thing is, I know in my heart, that if I were 20something
I'd probably be part of the scene not giving a darn about anything and
totally unwilling to listen to others with different views.
I'd be Drewing, and be getting a kick out of those who get offended.
I'm now way past that stage. Maybe sense comes with age. Maybe not.
There is just no use expecting good from people(me included). </rant>
Why?
Dead souls.
Many a long dead master craftsmen are turning in their grave,
wondering what wrong they must've done to deserve this hellish
punishment lashed out by the legion of Drewsters.
They search in their soul, day and night.
They find small sins but, nothing befitting this unbearable torment.
All the care. All the attention to detail. All the hard work: their life work.
Its undone, ruined, belittled. The work they've poured their soul into.
Horribly mutilated, brutalised with a file, garishly spray bombed and
thrown in velocipede hell alive. All without a thought. Without hesitation.
The soul-wrecking goes on, no end in sight.
All the while, clowns rejoice in the atrocity exhibition.
Rolling idiocy roams the street. Business as usual, world without end.
Gosh, I sux at writing...
Anyway, nothing personal. Absolutely no offence intended.
I'm in a bit of pessimistic mood today. So, the thought of
another C&V beaut getting her raison d'etre denied and dumped
into the hipster kettle makes me more depressed is all.
<rant>
I find fixie conversion a rather disrespectable and tasteless thing to do.
But, ultimately, its the owners call. Nothing I can do.
The horrible thing is, I know in my heart, that if I were 20something
I'd probably be part of the scene not giving a darn about anything and
totally unwilling to listen to others with different views.
I'd be Drewing, and be getting a kick out of those who get offended.
I'm now way past that stage. Maybe sense comes with age. Maybe not.
There is just no use expecting good from people(me included). </rant>
05-20-09 | 06:08 AM
#105
Arsehole
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,280
Likes: 1
Looks like I came here way too late. I'll chip in anyway.
Why?
Dead souls.
Many a long dead master craftsmen are turning in their grave,
wondering what wrong they must've done to deserve this hellish
punishment lashed out by the legion of Drewsters.
They search in their soul, day and night.
They find small sins but, nothing befitting this unbearable torment.
All the care. All the attention to detail. All the hard work: their life work.
Its undone, ruined, belittled. The work they've poured their soul into.
Horribly mutilated, brutalised with a file, garishly spray bombed and
thrown in velocipede hell alive. All without a thought. Without hesitation.
The soul-wrecking goes on, no end in sight.
All the while, clowns rejoice in the atrocity exhibition.
Rolling idiocy roams the street. Business as usual, world without end.
Gosh, I sux at writing...
Anyway, nothing personal. Absolutely no offence intended.
I'm in a bit of pessimistic mood today. So, the thought of
another C&V beaut getting her raison d'etre denied and dumped
into the hipster kettle makes me more depressed is all.
<rant>
I find fixie conversion a rather disrespectable and tasteless thing to do.
But, ultimately, its the owners call. Nothing I can do.
The horrible thing is, I know in my heart, that if I were 20something
I'd probably be part of the scene not giving a darn about anything and
totally unwilling to listen to others with different views.
I'd be Drewing, and be getting a kick out of those who get offended.
I'm now way past that stage. Maybe sense comes with age. Maybe not.
There is just no use expecting good from people(me included). </rant>
Why?
Dead souls.
Many a long dead master craftsmen are turning in their grave,
wondering what wrong they must've done to deserve this hellish
punishment lashed out by the legion of Drewsters.
They search in their soul, day and night.
They find small sins but, nothing befitting this unbearable torment.
All the care. All the attention to detail. All the hard work: their life work.
Its undone, ruined, belittled. The work they've poured their soul into.
Horribly mutilated, brutalised with a file, garishly spray bombed and
thrown in velocipede hell alive. All without a thought. Without hesitation.
The soul-wrecking goes on, no end in sight.
All the while, clowns rejoice in the atrocity exhibition.
Rolling idiocy roams the street. Business as usual, world without end.
Gosh, I sux at writing...
Anyway, nothing personal. Absolutely no offence intended.
I'm in a bit of pessimistic mood today. So, the thought of
another C&V beaut getting her raison d'etre denied and dumped
into the hipster kettle makes me more depressed is all.
<rant>
I find fixie conversion a rather disrespectable and tasteless thing to do.
But, ultimately, its the owners call. Nothing I can do.
The horrible thing is, I know in my heart, that if I were 20something
I'd probably be part of the scene not giving a darn about anything and
totally unwilling to listen to others with different views.
I'd be Drewing, and be getting a kick out of those who get offended.
I'm now way past that stage. Maybe sense comes with age. Maybe not.
There is just no use expecting good from people(me included). </rant>
05-20-09 | 06:30 AM
#106
Rustbelt Rider
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 9,105
Likes: 388
From: Canton, OH
Bikes: 1990 Trek 1420 - 1978 Raleigh Professional - 1973 Schwinn Collegiate - 1974 Schwinn Suburban
Twins separated at birth?
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05-20-09 | 09:27 AM
#107
Bottecchia fan
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,520
Likes: 12
From: Colorado Springs, CO
Bikes: 1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo (frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame), 1974 Peugeot UO-8
Funny, when I was in my 20's I was appreciative of vintage things. Not a collector by any means but aware that some of the old stuff was still pretty nice. Old cars were always a favorite of mine and vintage rock 'n roll from the 50's and 60's. It was the 80's that seems to be the dividing line. My buddies and I were listening rock 'n roll and cruising in our Camaros, Trans Ams, and Mustangs or trying to keep vintage 60's muscle cars rolling (back when you could buy one for under a grand and nobody made a complete line of reproduction parts for them) and the younger guys were moving to hip hop and rap and hotrodding imported Japanese cars. I'm pretty sure those are the guys that are drewing all the frames today 
Oddly, most of my cycling friends have fixies but they are all modern bikes that were purposely built as track bikes or fixed gear bikes. I haven't seen any home made Drew-style fixies at all around here.
Oddly, most of my cycling friends have fixies but they are all modern bikes that were purposely built as track bikes or fixed gear bikes. I haven't seen any home made Drew-style fixies at all around here.
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1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo(frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame),
1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
1974 Peugeot UO-8, 1988 Panasonic PT-3500, 2002 Bianchi Veloce, 2004 Bianchi Pista
1959 Bottecchia Milano-Sanremo(frame), 1966 Bottecchia Professional (frame), 1971 Bottecchia Professional (frame),
1973 Bottecchia Gran Turismo, 1974 Bottecchia Special, 1977 Bottecchia Special (frame),
1974 Peugeot UO-8, 1988 Panasonic PT-3500, 2002 Bianchi Veloce, 2004 Bianchi Pista
05-20-09 | 01:04 PM
#108
hateful little monkey
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,274
Likes: 0
From: oakland, ca
Looks like I came here way too late. I'll chip in anyway.
Why?
Dead souls.
Many a long dead master craftsmen are turning in their grave,
wondering what wrong they must've done to deserve this hellish
punishment lashed out by the legion of Drewsters.
They search in their soul, day and night.
They find small sins but, nothing befitting this unbearable torment.
All the care. All the attention to detail. All the hard work: their life work.
Its undone, ruined, belittled. The work they've poured their soul into.
Horribly mutilated, brutalised with a file, garishly spray bombed and
thrown in velocipede hell alive. All without a thought. Without hesitation.
The soul-wrecking goes on, no end in sight.
All the while, clowns rejoice in the atrocity exhibition.
Rolling idiocy roams the street. Business as usual, world without end.
Gosh, I sux at writing...
Anyway, nothing personal. Absolutely no offence intended.
I'm in a bit of pessimistic mood today. So, the thought of
another C&V beaut getting her raison d'etre denied and dumped
into the hipster kettle makes me more depressed is all.
<rant>
I find fixie conversion a rather disrespectable and tasteless thing to do.
But, ultimately, its the owners call. Nothing I can do.
The horrible thing is, I know in my heart, that if I were 20something
I'd probably be part of the scene not giving a darn about anything and
totally unwilling to listen to others with different views.
I'd be Drewing, and be getting a kick out of those who get offended.
I'm now way past that stage. Maybe sense comes with age. Maybe not.
There is just no use expecting good from people(me included). </rant>
Why?
Dead souls.
Many a long dead master craftsmen are turning in their grave,
wondering what wrong they must've done to deserve this hellish
punishment lashed out by the legion of Drewsters.
They search in their soul, day and night.
They find small sins but, nothing befitting this unbearable torment.
All the care. All the attention to detail. All the hard work: their life work.
Its undone, ruined, belittled. The work they've poured their soul into.
Horribly mutilated, brutalised with a file, garishly spray bombed and
thrown in velocipede hell alive. All without a thought. Without hesitation.
The soul-wrecking goes on, no end in sight.
All the while, clowns rejoice in the atrocity exhibition.
Rolling idiocy roams the street. Business as usual, world without end.
Gosh, I sux at writing...
Anyway, nothing personal. Absolutely no offence intended.
I'm in a bit of pessimistic mood today. So, the thought of
another C&V beaut getting her raison d'etre denied and dumped
into the hipster kettle makes me more depressed is all.
<rant>
I find fixie conversion a rather disrespectable and tasteless thing to do.
But, ultimately, its the owners call. Nothing I can do.
The horrible thing is, I know in my heart, that if I were 20something
I'd probably be part of the scene not giving a darn about anything and
totally unwilling to listen to others with different views.
I'd be Drewing, and be getting a kick out of those who get offended.
I'm now way past that stage. Maybe sense comes with age. Maybe not.
There is just no use expecting good from people(me included). </rant>
