Help! Identify this custom frame from Santa Barbara. King? Pauley?
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Help! Identify this custom frame from Santa Barbara. King? Pauley?
I bought this frame about a week ago and can't figure out who built it. I have several clues, but need someone with more knowledge about old custom frames from the Santa Barbara area.
Here are the 'clues' I have;
1. Bottom bracket is stamped 103.56.79. There is something else etched next to the stamp, but I can't for the life of me make out what it is.
(I assume #103, 56cm, 1979)
2. The guy I bought it from said he had it built for him in Santa Barbara, CA by a guy named Chris. The frame was then taken to Chris Kings shop to be painted. He couldn't remember the builders last name and then said oh and Chris King is now in Portland. (Both the seller and I live about an hour from Portland)
3. There is a worn Reynolds sticker on the frame
From my research the only guy named Chris that was in the vicinity at the time was Chris Pauley. Are there any trademark areas I can photograph and post to better identify the builder?!
Thanks in advance for the help!!!!
Here are the 'clues' I have;
1. Bottom bracket is stamped 103.56.79. There is something else etched next to the stamp, but I can't for the life of me make out what it is.
(I assume #103, 56cm, 1979)
2. The guy I bought it from said he had it built for him in Santa Barbara, CA by a guy named Chris. The frame was then taken to Chris Kings shop to be painted. He couldn't remember the builders last name and then said oh and Chris King is now in Portland. (Both the seller and I live about an hour from Portland)
3. There is a worn Reynolds sticker on the frame
From my research the only guy named Chris that was in the vicinity at the time was Chris Pauley. Are there any trademark areas I can photograph and post to better identify the builder?!
Thanks in advance for the help!!!!
#3
Chris Pauley was in Santa Barbara, so if your seller remembered the "Chris" part right, it could be one. Pauley frames were known for their really fine detailing, and he died back around 2000, so there will be no more made.
Pics!
Pics!
#5
I hope you get a good camera soon...borrow one!
I haven't seen enough of Pauley's work to say, but this frame clearly has some nicely thinned lugs (and even the BB shell sockets) plus a very weird mix of cable guide braze-ons AND clips...it sure looks "custom"!
I haven't seen enough of Pauley's work to say, but this frame clearly has some nicely thinned lugs (and even the BB shell sockets) plus a very weird mix of cable guide braze-ons AND clips...it sure looks "custom"!
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somehow, I doubt that: the cost of a few more braze-ons would not amount to much on the bill for a custom frame, I think either the customer wanted exactly what's there (and the customer's always right, even when crazy) or some have broken off and the frame's repainted. Any sign of repainting? (I don't think so, given the scrapes we can see)
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I would say the mix of braze-ons puts it firmly in the mid to late '70s, depending on how backwards the framebuilder was. I don't think too many framebuilders made it to 1980 without putting bb cable guides and top tube cable guides on. Two water bottle cages became more common a little later.
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Any other help? The guy I bought it from advertised it as a 57cm, which I comfortably ride, but alas, this frame is too small. An acquaintance wants to buy it and keeps bugging me about it, so my motivation in starting this thread was to kind of get a market value (as the value can change depending on who built it). So, since no one has any leads on the builder, the next question follows... What is a fair price for the frame/bike?!












