Not so lightweight! What does your bike weigh?
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Seriously though I ride alone so speeds above 20 mph are not that common. So I find the lighter, lower profile Zonda/Fulcrum 3's more suited for my normal riding. I got the Scirocco's to put on that stiff PDG Paramount to see if it makes a difference when I attack local strava segments that I need to run in the high 20s to get into the top 10 or whatever. I've only ridden the Scirocco's two times so far but on the second ride I did better my PR on my base 25 mile route by 37 seconds and it would have been better if not for some things getting in my way that day. One thing I noticed with the Scirroco is that I would give a lot of effort to get up to around 22 miles per hour, relax to cruise at that pace and then look down and see that I was running in the 24 mph range. Normally it takes a fair effort from me to go from 22 to 24 mph. Too soon to say it was the wheels but with all the riding I do I never noticed that happening before. It was pretty much calm that day so it wasn't the wind, especially since it happened with what breeze there was being in my face.
So, I guess it comes down to what kind of riding you are looking to do. Personally, I don't know if the higher profile wheels are worth it unless you are really moving. I will say they didn't seem to make the ride any harsher and the certainly seemed more efficient at putting my power down then the old wheels I had on it. Hope this makes some sense.
Oh, and buy from the UK for the best deal. I got the Scirroco's with tubes and Conti 4000s II 700 x 25 for $309 shipped. Took 11 days to reach me.
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I hung my semi-gugificazione'd 1972 Motobecane Grand Record on the cheapo fish scale this morning. With fenders and pedals, it came in at 24.98 pounds.
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I just brought my old Torpado home from the bike shop where it has been on display and weighed it. 25 pounds and 11 ounces. That's about three pounds heavier than most of the mid-high to high end bikes, that I find. The funny thing is that this old Torpado, and other entry level rides, offer a more than pleasing ride quality. Well, pleasing to me, anyway...
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The funny thing is that this old Torpado, and other entry level rides, offer a more than pleasing ride quality. Well, pleasing to me, anyway...
Even within the realm of old steel bikes, accepting that with the components I want the weights are all going to come in between 22 and 26 pounds, I have found as you say that the lighter bikes with the blingy tube sets aren't necessarily the ones that ride best.
Still, it can be fun to take a frame you like and see just how light you can get the bike. I hear that tubbies and drillium are the key, though I haven't personally resorted to that yet.
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My bikes are big ones for my long legs: 62cm (ctc) ST, and these lovely steel lugged frames with modernish components and leather saddles are comfortable for rides of any length and push all my hot buttons. They weigh what they need to, and work wonderfully.
1987 Marinoni SLX Sports Tourer (Ms. Marinoni's description) weighs 25.85 lb/11.73 kg as shown in my everyday riding configuration with minimalist rack, full-size pump (not mounted for this beauty shot), pedals, bottle cages, computer, bell, and taillight. With pedals (who rides without pedals?) and computer, but without the other extra stuff, it weighs 24.2 lb/11.0 kg. BTW, in 650B form with long reach brakes, light Pacenti rims and EL 38mm tires/tubes, it gains 0.5 lb. and room for fenders.
1979 Miyata 912 (before they were using their own tubing), updated with basically the same components as the Marinoni above, is my dedicated fender bike, so it weighs 27.43 lb/12.44 kg as shown. Bare without fenders, etc. it's 25.2 lb/11.44 kg. The fork is at the gugificazione magic mod site for custom front racks, bag, and brake, so it will look and weigh something else soon.
1987 Marinoni SLX Sports Tourer (Ms. Marinoni's description) weighs 25.85 lb/11.73 kg as shown in my everyday riding configuration with minimalist rack, full-size pump (not mounted for this beauty shot), pedals, bottle cages, computer, bell, and taillight. With pedals (who rides without pedals?) and computer, but without the other extra stuff, it weighs 24.2 lb/11.0 kg. BTW, in 650B form with long reach brakes, light Pacenti rims and EL 38mm tires/tubes, it gains 0.5 lb. and room for fenders.
1979 Miyata 912 (before they were using their own tubing), updated with basically the same components as the Marinoni above, is my dedicated fender bike, so it weighs 27.43 lb/12.44 kg as shown. Bare without fenders, etc. it's 25.2 lb/11.44 kg. The fork is at the gugificazione magic mod site for custom front racks, bag, and brake, so it will look and weigh something else soon.
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My 1981 Miyata 310 is 23 and some change after equipping semi-modern 700c wheels and a hollowtech 2 crank. For daily use, though? So long as the frame is responsive, who cares about what the scale says?
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This one really surprised me. My 1984 Pinarello Gran Turismo with 11-speed Athena group, full metal fenders and bottle cage weighed in at 22.6 pounds. I guess this is why weight weenies like compact doubles. Last time I weighed it, it was 23.1 pounds with a 3x10 Shimano Tiagra group without the fenders.
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