i'm no Cilo expert, but I've seen a few with chromed forks exactly like that, so I'm inclined to think it's original.

Pretty sure it is cromoly of some sort. I don't think it is a '70s bike either, not with a peg, recessed brakes and under the BB cables. OH a 600 EX group too

Not that familiar either, but looking at the 2nd Picture:
http://images.craigslist.org/00y0y_b...Lo_600x450.jpg
Looks original-ish?

And I agree that it looks more mid-80s than 70s.

here are pics of 2 others with similar forks found here in previous BF threads:

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=354594http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=354595

You have great taste.
Albert Eisentraut, based in Oakland California, was the father of modern American framebuilding. http://www.classicrendezvous.com/USA...traut_main.htm

Hard to believe but he introduced the "limited" series of bikes as a more affordable alternative to his custom "A" bikes.

Brent

^Thanks for the link, read a couple of the articles. I assume that AE and his sons still make frames to this day? I also assume he's maintained his KOF status...

I sure wish Santa would leave that under my tree...

I still don't think that fork is original, it's too tall, look at the angle closer, and there's no Cilo on the fork although decals can come off, but I don't think it's original, not saying I'm right, it just seems that way to me.

I heard several years ago that Albert Eisentraut's son was building frames but I haven't heard anything in a while, and the website is now defunct. I've read that Albert is making some great red wine!
Brent

are you referring to the fork on the blue Cilo in the CL ad, or the one on the blue Cilo in the photo i pulled from another recent thread here on BF (they are 2 different bikes, although they appear to be the same exact year/color/model?). the one in the CL ad does have the Cilo decal on the fork, but it's missing from the other bike in the BF photo. either way, i can't argue that the one in the CL ad is original based on just the photo, but it makes me think it could be because I've seen other Cilos with what appears to be the same chromed fork with the decal. but i could be wrong, too.

It's been about 6 years but, iirc, that is identical to the Cilo that I used to own (including the Aelle tubing and 600 components, and size).

FWIW, that remains one of my favorite bikes. The frame worked really well for me, and I felt that I could spin away all day on it... Unfortunately, it was a size too small for me.....

Columbus Formula One = SLX ?!?

http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/bik/4226923203.html
[h=2]56cm Bianchi road bike - $365 (Weston)[/h] http://images.craigslist.org/00J0J_k...hZ_600x450.jpg
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Bianchi Trofeo (?) Columbus Formula One (SLX) frame.
~true Italian made frame w 70mm bb shell
Campagnolo derailleurs, Ofmega, Gipiemme, Modolo, ITM
12 sp, Very Good Condition. Very low mileage by all evidence.
Frame has numerous scrapes and scratches, no rust/corrosion.
Front wheel is Sansin/Ukai
Yes its for sale if your you've read this.

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Posted: 8 days ago
Updated: about 15 hours ago

If I am not mistaken, the Trofeo has Formula 2 tubing which I think was Alle tubing. The Trofeo had a mix of parts as listed in the ad. I think it is a Trofeo but not SLX.

I have a 1991 Series 70 pdg. Great bike. I paid $250 on CL, which was a bit of a stretch, because it fit me perfectly. Here's a (mislabled) 1992. It's a great bike too. But $800? Dream on. Perhaps it would be worth $800 if it actually were titanium, as the seller claims. Let's hope some poor sucker doesn't buy that and purchase.

http://annarbor.craigslist.org/bik/4232443720.html

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=354732

This has been sitting on the local Craigslist for a while, pretty sure the seller has dropped the price at least once.

54cm Hand-Built Italian Rossi Road Bike with all Campagnolo parts - $500 (Boulder/Gunbarrel) (link)
http://images.craigslist.org/00000_2...jS_600x450.jpg

Vintage Italian (1980's?) Rossi (please note this is NOT Rossin. This is a hand built super rare Italian racing bike) with Campagnolo Super Record. $500 firm.

No idea what the tubing would be, but perhaps something nice to match the groupset.

[h=2]Gilmour 53cm steel frame - $200 (tuc mall area)[/h]http://images.craigslist.org/00y0y_e...eK_600x450.jpg
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I`m sure it`s reynolds or columbus tubing, vintage early 80`s, has Sun tour superbe components, no pedals,seat or wheels, paint does have some chips, email ad or txt only 520-336-8812, PLEASE STATE ITEM

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Found on local CL. Guy is kinda sketchy, but the bike is nice.

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/4239378244.html
[h=2]Puch Mistral classic road bike - $725 (Boston)[/h] http://images.craigslist.org/00X0X_b...uF_600x450.jpg
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Puch Mistral made by Bianchi in early 90's--seat tube 55cm,top tube 55cm measured C-C
Columbus SL tubing-Fausto Coppi fork-super record headset
Super record rear derailleur-campy front derailleur-super record shift levers.
Novo record BB and crankset-super record pedals-one pedal has flip tab broken off.
Regina american alloy 7spd freewheel
Record dual pivot brakes-super record brake levers
Mavic GP-4 rims-record hubs-Tufo Elite ride 25 tubular tires
Campy aero seatpost-Fizik Arion saddle
Cinelli stem and Criterium 65-42 bars
Bars are leather wrapped
Bike was built up about 2 years ago-all bearings were disassembled cleaned and greased-has less than 200 miles since then.
It's a beautifull bike that rides super smooth with a steel frame.

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Posting ID: 4239378244
Posted: about 5 hours ago
email to a friend

Looks like an '87 which is specced with a Formula 1 frame but it wasn't SLX. It might be a SL/SP mix or even SL/SP and Alle the folks at Bianchi don't even remember for sure.

Yep. Missing original fork and a respray with a non-Gios blue paint.

Thanks for your reply ... furthers my Italian bike edumacation. :)
But seriously, how can you tell it it was repainted?
Bike in AD:


http://images.craigslist.org/01212_b...LO_600x450.jpg

Is this shade of blue too light compared to GIOS blue?
Here is Yellow Jersey's GIOS respay:

http://www.yellowjersey.org/rpn.html

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I agree with Retrofit. It does appear to be repainted. To my eyes, here are the two standout signs.

A. The paint looks too shiny. My Gios SR paint is a bit more dull. (I don't think you can quite match Gios blue. I believe the paint was banned for environmental reasons.)

B. Didn't Gios prime the frames in red? If so, then a bit of red should show in the chips. (Note the background frame in the first YellowJersey photo that you attached.)

I'm not going to say that it has been crashed, but I would be certainly look that frame over for any front-end damage. At $700, I wouldn't take the chance.

I am continuously amazed at the depth and breadth of you knowledge of bikes. I truly admire your encyclopedic mind.

I agree, it looks repainted but there is a but, read on. Gios did prime with a dark red primer, this made the blue look deeper and richer, however it was the red primer that was banned not the blue paint, the red came from using red lead tetroxide(sp?) which was toxic so it was banned sometime in the 1990's. Which if you compare the earlier (before the ban of the red primer) the blue was darker than the newer ones after the ban.

So is the bike repainted or a new one made to look older?

I saw a similar ad on CL back in the spring I believe. I've offered to take the XO-3 if he he would sell individually. But I made the same offer before. Anyone out there interested in a Bridgestone 200 with non-original stem, bars, and brake levers? I'll split the deal with you.

http://easternshore.craigslist.org/bik/4240804816.html

Where's Scooper? He would know if this is the real deal. That's a lonnnngggg wheelbase.

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bik/4236676323.html

[h=2]**Late 30's Schwinn Track Bike** - $175 (eastside costa mesa)[/h] http://images.craigslist.org/00G0G_9...mr_600x450.jpg
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***** SALE ***** $175 ***** SALE *****
*Late 30's Men's Schwinn Track Bike* *$250 OBO*
Person Seat, cork grips, down swept bars,
racing pedals, skip tooth