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joe englert 07-20-09 02:23 PM

olmo speciale
 
have an opportunity to pick up a 60s? era olmo. looks great shape and everything but i dont know much about collectability. from what i read, most modes arent that great but this one looks pretty cool. any information greatly appreciated. joehttp://photobucket.com/englert

vjp 07-20-09 03:02 PM

It looks like it has Record derailleurs or maybe Gran Sport? Magistroni cranks? Is there a tubing decal? Universal brakes?

Joe, do you know what size bike you ride? The Bianchi is large and this is small. Do you care? Do you want to ride them or just collect them?

Joe, your pics are consistently kind of vague, it is hard to make out any detail and give you correct info. You need to take sharp close ups of all the details/parts and level front and side shots. The shots you post look like the kind that scammers use on Ebay and CL to hide crap, and I know that is not what you want to look like.

The bike looks COOL but I am not an OLMO dude so I will sit back and watch this one....

vjp

JunkYardBike 07-20-09 03:10 PM

http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/v...g?t=1248123860

http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/v...t/IMG_3405.jpg

JunkYardBike 07-20-09 03:17 PM

Some info is provided by the seller:


VINTAGE OLMO SPECIAL - $600

Early 60's Olmo Special. Red with gold lettering. 57 c-c top tube, 54 c-c seat tube with a 7 cm stem. I don't think this bike was ridden much. Paint is in overall great condition, as is the chrome. The seat tube decals are a bit tatty, but the down tube lettering is very nice. 99 % original.

Magistroni Olmo branded h.s. cranks, hubs. NOS Sheffield pedals. Uni 61 center pulls with Uni NOS levers, lever hoods and adjuster boots. 27 " Fiamme clincher rims.

Campagnolo Gran Sport front and rear derailleurs, down tube shifters, down tube cable/housing guide, top tube housing clamps.

I stripped it down, cleaned until it sparkled and then put it back together with new cables, brake pads and fresh bar tape and grease. Beautiful and ready to ride.

Larger photos and details available to those interested in BUYING. Low ballers, time wasters, and e-mails from your uncle in Siberia will be ignored.

http://images.craigslist.org/3n33k93...f173c018dc.jpg http://images.craigslist.org/3n13m63...8c201614f6.jpg

http://images.craigslist.org/3nf3p93...1ea381194b.jpg


Picchio Special 07-20-09 03:21 PM

My sense is that that's an entry level bike - I believe quite a few similar ones came into the US. Seems to me that general lug type was pretty common on run-of-the mill bikes of a certain age. I doubt it has much real collectability, but might be fun to own and ride for the right price.
(IMO, $600 is too much.)

Picchio Special 07-20-09 03:22 PM

BTW, it clearly says it's a Olmo "Special" - what is it with people adding an extra "e" on the end?

JunkYardBike 07-20-09 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by Picchio Special (Post 9317195)
BTW, it clearly says it's a Olmo "Special" - what is it with people adding an extra "e" on the end?

What's with an Italian frame with English spelling?

Picchio Special 07-20-09 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by JunkYardBike (Post 9317238)
What's with an Italian frame with English spelling?

Well, first of all it was imported into the US (and likely intended for import, since it has the 27-inch wheels.). Secondly, Masi Specials and Grandis Specials were also "Specials," without the "e." So it's certainly not unusual.

JunkYardBike 07-20-09 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by Picchio Special (Post 9317256)
Well, first of all it was imported into the US (and likely intended for import, since it has the 27-inch wheels.). Secondly, Masi Specials and Grandis Specials were also "Specials," without the "e." So it's certainly not unusual.

I don't disagree with you, it's just stupid.

Picchio Special 07-20-09 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by JunkYardBike (Post 9317286)
I don't disagree with you, it's just stupid.

Or, you just don't get it.

JunkYardBike 07-20-09 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by Picchio Special (Post 9317327)
Or, you just don't get it.

What, that they were being marketed to Americans?

vjp 07-20-09 03:45 PM

When I visited Pegoretti he had a Masi Special"e" that I lusted after and Dario made quite a point of telling me that it was really special because the decal said "Speciale" not "Special" like most Masi. It was kind of lost on me at the time but in lieu of this discourse maybe it means something...?

vjp

Picchio Special 07-20-09 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by JunkYardBike (Post 9317346)
What, that they were being marketed to Americans?

Maybe there's some aspect of the subject of which you're not aware, that were you aware of it, might make you more hesitant to simply throw the word "stupid" at something.

Picchio Special 07-20-09 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by vjp (Post 9317364)
When I visited Pegoretti he had a Masi Special"e" that I lusted after and Dario made quite a point of telling me that it was really special because the decal said "Speciale" not "Special" like most Masi. It was kind of lost on me at the time but in lieu of this discourse maybe it means something...?

vjp

There was a Masi model that preceded the "Special" called the "Speciale Corsa." Maybe you saw one of those? Would be special(e) indeed (and rare.)

JunkYardBike 07-20-09 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Picchio Special (Post 9317379)
Maybe there's some aspect of the subject of which you're not aware, that were you aware of it, might make you more hesitant to simply throw the word "stupid" at something.

So enlighten me.

Picchio Special 07-20-09 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by JunkYardBike (Post 9317398)
So enlighten me.

I'm not saying I know. Just saying I'm not so quick so label something I don't understand "stupid."

Now, Tommasini labeling the first bikes he imported into the US "Thomas" - well, maybe that qualifies.

ozneddy 07-20-09 04:05 PM

You guy,s are worrying over an "E" ? sheesh !

KonaBuyer 07-20-09 04:16 PM

Given the linguistic carnage perpetrated on this forum, the extra "e" seems rather a misdemeanour, to me.

Picchio Special 07-20-09 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by ozneddy (Post 9317515)
You guy,s are worrying over an "E" ? sheesh !

What's with people using commas instead of apostrophes?

KonaBuyer 07-20-09 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by Picchio Special (Post 9317584)
What's with people using commas instead of apostrophes?

Neither a comma, nor an apostrophe are called for in the above-cited example. Apostrophes are to denote possession or missing letters. I have never understood the random insertion of apostrophes, particularly given the rather alarming level of the use of "your" instead of "you're".

JunkYardBike 07-20-09 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by Picchio Special (Post 9317584)
What's with people using commas instead of apostrophes?

He's in the Southern Hemisphere.

vjp 07-20-09 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by JunkYardBike (Post 9317613)
He's in the Southern Hemisphere.

So does he insert his commas on the top? :lol:

vjp

JunkYardBike 07-20-09 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by KonaBuyer (Post 9317610)
Neither a comma, nor an apostrophe are called for in the above-cited example. Apostrophes are to denote possession or missing letters. I have never understood the random insertion of apostrophes, particularly given the rather alarming level of the use of "your" instead of "you're".

It's because languages tend towards efficiency (e.g. most speakers and writers of American English use 'toward' instead of 'towards', except me.)

nlerner 07-20-09 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by KonaBuyer (Post 9317610)
Neither a comma, nor an apostrophe are called for in the above-cited example. Apostrophes are to denote possession or missing letters. I have never understood the random insertion of apostrophes, particularly given the rather alarming level of the use of "your" instead of "you're".

And you made a subject/verb error in your first sentence. Neither/nor calls for a singular verb.

But how do you feel about apostrophes used in plurals of single letters, e.g., He received a series of F's on his homework assignments?

Neal

Picchio Special 07-20-09 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 9317664)
But how do you feel about apostrophes used in plurals of single letters, e.g., He received a series of F's on his homework assignments?

I feel he needs to study much harder, and perhaps not participate for a while in extracurricular activities.

JJPistols 07-20-09 04:32 PM

could b a nic bik

KonaBuyer 07-20-09 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by JunkYardBike (Post 9317646)
It's because languages tend towards efficiency (e.g. most speakers and writers of American English use 'toward' instead of 'towards', except me.)

I don't agree that the growing use of homophones is efficient (your - you're, defunked - defunct, etc.). I think it is the manifestation of linguistic ignorance and it troubles me. I believe that the linguistic and the conceptual are linked and that a diminution of the former leads to the diminution of the latter.

KonaBuyer 07-20-09 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 9317664)
And you made a subject/verb error in your first sentence. Neither/nor calls for a singular verb.

Nice catch.


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 9317664)
But how do you feel about apostrophes used in plurals of single letters, e.g., He received a series of F's on his homework assignments?

Neal

Personally I dislike the use of apostrophes in this way. I tend, too, to eschew the use of "but" to begin a sentence.

nlerner 07-20-09 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Picchio Special (Post 9317678)
I feel he needs to study much harder, and perhaps not participate for a while in extracurricular activities.

Is that "a while" or "awhile"?

Neal

JunkYardBike 07-20-09 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by KonaBuyer (Post 9317707)
I don't agree that the growing use of homophones is efficient (your - you're, defunked - defunct, etc.). I think it is the manifestation of linguistic ignorance and it troubles me. I believe that the linguistic and the conceptual are linked and that a diminution of the former leads to the diminution of the latter.

Henny Penny Apocalyptic Nonsense. That's been a concern for at least 200 years, probably more. I'm not sure we're any less conceptual now than we were then. (Lookey! I used the the 'right' spelling of then and than!)


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