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DMF 07-31-09 02:04 PM

Toggle cam brakes?
 
[cross-posted from Mechanics when I realized I'm more likely to get an answer here.]

I was writing up the section on Roller cam brakes in Wikipedia and while looking for a good picture I ran across a thing called a "toggle cam" brake. I've never seen one - and Sheldon makes no mention - but from the few pics it looks like a one-sided roller cam design with a slaved arm (how?).

Anyone know how these operate? How common they were? Good or bad?


I also found a reference to a "sabre cam" design. I believe the front brake on this bike (click on the thumb of the front brake for a pic) is a sabre cam. Anyone know anything about them?

LWaB 07-31-09 05:19 PM

http://www.blackbirdsf.org/brake_obscura/mtb.html

DMF 07-31-09 05:31 PM

Thanks for the link! I've actually seen the site before yet lost track of it.



Just to help them along, here is what the webmasters need:

"im looking for pics of:

scott superbrakes
shimano dura-ace/600 ax calipers
jeay brakes (france, 1940s)
lefol calipers (france, 1940s/50s)
hooker tt brakes
and anything else unusual"

Elev12k 08-02-09 03:56 AM

Toggle cam are kinda like Rollarcam, but with a modification so the brake cable doesn't has to come from the middle. Makes them ideal for small MTBs with a short seatstays where there is not much room. You easily recognize Toggle Cam as opposed to Roller Cam, because of one wheel instead of two and a half, modified cam.

My WTB Phoenix has a Toggle in front and a Roller hidden under the chainstays.

Tech explanation incl drawings >> http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/gal...2_itemId=45594


Pic of 600AX calliper >>

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/185/4...16f65b10c8.jpg

In fact AX brakes are very much like a Roller Cam.

pastorbobnlnh 08-02-09 04:17 AM

So what about these odd calipers made by DiaComp?

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...erLever2LR.jpg

Are they "Roller Levers"?

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...Compdetail.jpg

LWaB 08-02-09 05:48 AM

Don't they automatically adjust for brake pad wear?

JohnDThompson 08-02-09 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by DMF (Post 9396299)
Im looking for pics of:

scott superbrakes
shimano dura-ace/600 ax calipers
jeay brakes (france, 1940s)
lefol calipers (france, 1940s/50s)
hooker tt brakes
and anything else unusual"

Bicycle Quarterly recently had an issue devoted to brakes, including Rebour illustrations of some of these models.


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