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Old 07-31-09 | 02:04 PM
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Toggle cam brakes?

[cross-posted from Mechanics when I realized I'm more likely to get an answer here.]

I was writing up the section on Roller cam brakes in Wikipedia and while looking for a good picture I ran across a thing called a "toggle cam" brake. I've never seen one - and Sheldon makes no mention - but from the few pics it looks like a one-sided roller cam design with a slaved arm (how?).

Anyone know how these operate? How common they were? Good or bad?


I also found a reference to a "sabre cam" design. I believe the front brake on this bike (click on the thumb of the front brake for a pic) is a sabre cam. Anyone know anything about them?
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Old 07-31-09 | 05:31 PM
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Thanks for the link! I've actually seen the site before yet lost track of it.



Just to help them along, here is what the webmasters need:

"im looking for pics of:

scott superbrakes
shimano dura-ace/600 ax calipers
jeay brakes (france, 1940s)
lefol calipers (france, 1940s/50s)
hooker tt brakes
and anything else unusual"
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Old 08-02-09 | 03:56 AM
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Toggle cam are kinda like Rollarcam, but with a modification so the brake cable doesn't has to come from the middle. Makes them ideal for small MTBs with a short seatstays where there is not much room. You easily recognize Toggle Cam as opposed to Roller Cam, because of one wheel instead of two and a half, modified cam.

My WTB Phoenix has a Toggle in front and a Roller hidden under the chainstays.

Tech explanation incl drawings >> https://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/gal...2_itemId=45594


Pic of 600AX calliper >>



In fact AX brakes are very much like a Roller Cam.
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So what about these odd calipers made by DiaComp?



Are they "Roller Levers"?

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Don't they automatically adjust for brake pad wear?
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Originally Posted by DMF
Im looking for pics of:

scott superbrakes
shimano dura-ace/600 ax calipers
jeay brakes (france, 1940s)
lefol calipers (france, 1940s/50s)
hooker tt brakes
and anything else unusual"
Bicycle Quarterly recently had an issue devoted to brakes, including Rebour illustrations of some of these models.
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