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Old 08-22-09 | 09:00 PM
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Pinarello identification -

I picked up a Pinarello in my size today for a great deal. It's beautiful and significantly lighter than my current daily rider, a tre-tubi Bianchi. Only thing is I can't figure out exactly what it is. It looks to be one of their nicer models, but some of the details don't add up or point to a re-decal or possibly full re-paint. So, anyone want to take a shot as to the model/date of this Pinarello? I'd much appreciate any suggestions or info. Some relevant details:
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Teaser shot: (I'll post a nice drive-side shot once I get it cleaned up and replace a few things)

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Old 08-23-09 | 12:49 AM
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The seat stay caps (& the fork crown) are engraved "GP", not "PT". GP stands for Giovanni Pinarello, the founder of the company.

I'm thinking it's a 1991 or later, and I am basing this on the decal on the down tube, between the shifter and head tube that says, Campione Olimpico '84 (commemorating Alexi Grewal's 1984 Olympic Gold) & Campione del Mondo '90 (who won a World Championship on a Pinarello, I do not know)

The fork crown indicates (to me) that it's an early '80s model. By the mid-to-late '80s, I think that Pinarello had gone to a more sloped fork crown. But there's that darned decal....

This is a tough one.
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Old 08-23-09 | 08:11 AM
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I think you'll find it's a record frame, from 1981 or a wee bit earlier. Mine's an 82, and it has braze-on shifter bosses and cable guides. I think 1982 was the year that stuff got added. It's definitely a repaint (and thus a re-sticker) - there's no way there's be that much lettering or paint left if it were original (it fell off if you breathed hard on it).
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Old 08-23-09 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by frpax
The seat stay caps (& the fork crown) are engraved "GP", not "PT". GP stands for Giovanni Pinarello, the founder of the company.
Thanks. I was thinking "Pinarello Treviso" with a REALLY stylized T. Haha.

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I think you'll find it's a record frame, from 1981 or a wee bit earlier. Mine's an 82, and it has braze-on shifter bosses and cable guides. I think 1982 was the year that stuff got added. It's definitely a repaint (and thus a re-sticker) - there's no way there's be that much lettering or paint left if it were original (it fell off if you breathed hard on it).

And thank you Jeff! I suspected an early 80's model with a repaint/re-sticker and the details you posted look identical to my frame. Do you have any full-bike pictures of yours?
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Old 08-23-09 | 02:33 PM
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There are too many discrepancies to say this is post 1990. Wrong fork crown. Campagnolo dropouts versus Pinarello (and Porta Catena no less). Wrong tubing decal. No front derailleur braze-on.

Given the Porta catena dropout, fork crown and no front derailleur braze-on, I'd place it early 1980s. However, the pump peg is inconsistent for the era, making the other braze-ons and even the chrome suspect.

I wouldn't even want to guess at the model, given the possible changes, though you could check for the helical ridges in the bottom of the steerer which would indicate at least a Treviso.
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Old 08-23-09 | 05:49 PM
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I'm going to say it's a 1981 Super Record Special. The seatstays and chainstays are all chrome underneath that paint, as is the fork.
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yes, not later than '85 at the latest. The ear on the seatpost clamp looks to be cracked...watch that.
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Thanks for weighing in everyone!

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I'm going to say it's a 1981 Super Record Special. The seatstays and chainstays are all chrome underneath that paint, as is the fork.
Yeah, I think at least that much is chrome. The main tubes appear to be chromed as well. I'm going to add that to the original post.

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yes, not later than '85 at the latest. The ear on the seatpost clamp looks to be cracked...watch that.
Just the paint, thankfully. I did manage to break the binder bolt after that picture was taken though ;-)

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Given the Porta catena dropout, fork crown and no front derailleur braze-on, I'd place it early 1980s. However, the pump peg is inconsistent for the era, making the other braze-ons and even the chrome suspect.
Interesting - in what way is it inconsistent? Were they placing them on the seat tube or just not using them at all?

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Old 08-24-09 | 07:28 AM
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I'll agree with 1981.

The 84/90 decal is just so weird, to me.
If I were doing a refin, I'd have left it off, knowing that the bike predated it.
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[QUOTE=delicious;9542595]Thanks. I was thinking "Pinarello Treviso" with a REALLY stylized T. Haha.

I was under the impression it's GPT, Giovanni Pinarello Treviso. See the T formed out of the G?
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