in case anyone is interested, while we decide whether my brother ever gets to ride the Puch Vent Noir, here's the lovely (but not pristine) Pinarello that I AM allowing him to ride.

Riding vintage was a kind of funny transition for him. Since he only started cycling about 2 years ago, he started off with a recent Specialized aluminum framed. His first few outings on this Pinarello I got for him, he had trouble dropping his hands down to shift.

But after a few weeks, I got this email:

"I changed the stem and moved the seat forward, and it is a very comfortable ride. I took it out last weeks for a few 50km loops. It rides beautifully.

On Thursday I pulled up to a group of shaved legged, Cervello riding weenies, who looked at me on my antique dismissively. As we approached the first big hill I said something about the bike not really being geared for hills. Half way up the hill I stood up and blew them away. I didn't see them again. Dropping people is so much fun, especially on a 30 year old steel bike.

I swear it rides better then the Specialized."

In addition to a few select photos attached here, a full complement of photos is here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/TOcycles...ecordBlue56cm#

Peter

Great looking bike! Since I bought the Colnago, I'm starting to think that I NEED to start collecting Italian bikes. Pinarello, Bianchi, De Rosa, etc. I am not spoilled by modern equipment, somehow I really like the old stuff.

Heh, heh. I've not seen a Pinarello yet that gives up much in the way of ride, handling, and beauty. And it's just one of an Italian crowd, in many ways....

OP's brother is probably a strong rider no matter what he's on, but yes - feel free to drop the weenies whenever possible and tell us about it!

I got dusted the other day by a guy on a beautiful Waterford. I wanted to catch up just so I could look at the bike

Nice story. Nice Pinarello.

I just recently bought a Pinarello but instead took the more modern option, a full carbon FP3.


Pinarello's are by far the most comfortable bikes i have ever ridden. Great looking bike..



This is my bike.....

Now here's a Pinarello:

I thought Indurain's bikes were welded up by Pegoretti.

You don't think it's a Pinarello yellowjeep? Indurain rode Pinarello's for 15 years.


Miguel in the TDF 1989 on a Pinarello


Miguel in the Tour of Spain 1985 on a Pinarello.

I wonder how many welders worked on his frames over the period of time he was associated with Pinarello?

Hey FP3, we just returned from our family vacation to Italy. I rode my nephew's FP3 for almost two weeks in Tuscany. Usually I ride steel framed bikes (DeRosa, Merckx, Colnago) exclusively, but I must tell you, the FP3 could change my opinion on this matter quickly. His FP3 was all Dura Ace, and it was just right, a very balanced machine. It could really climb. It is a fabulous bike, and I could see why you like yours so much.

Guys with vintage steel bikes that brag about dropping the carbon fiber boys are just one step away from the Recumbent forum.

Sure, fast guy on Varsity will beat slow guy on carbon fiber every time. That and $8.99 will get you a couple of brake adjuster o-rings. with free shipping.

There is a really nice Terry Osell recumbent on our local CL!

I always thought Big Mig rode Pegoretti's with Pinarello decals... At least that was the rumor back in his heyday.

Been there a bunch of times. I console myself with the compliments of the guys passing me; they're nice enough to compliment my C&V bike and gracious enough to not laugh at the rider.....

...when I had a Pinarello, sometimes they'd slow down, come back and gawk...the most common comment was.."reminds me of big Mig." I sold it before the decals began to fail, but I've not had a bike since that was simply that cool.

If Pinarello uses a contract builder such as Pegoretti it is still a Pinarello.

A lot of the Pinarello race team bikes were built for Pinarello by Luigino Milani who was Pegoretti's mentor (and Father In-Law). Dario did build the tigged Pinarello team bikes for Indurain. They are Pinarello, that is the reality when you build as a contractor.

vjp

Sorry Gary I didn't mean to sound like I was calling your knowledge in to question. I have no doubt that Big Mig rode Pinarellos. Like frpax said I am pretty sure that the frames he road late in his career were welded by Dario. If I recall correctly it was on of the first TIGed frames and it had Pegoretti's tall head tube/dropped top tube. I don't have any links or sources for this at the moment. I'll see if I can dig some stuff up

Who speaks Italian?
https://www.competitivecyclist.com/ht...ti_movie2.html

Only thing wrong with older Pinarello bikes, is that decals flake off too easily.

And there's not enough of them in my garage....

Yes indeed, Indurain did ride the first TIG welded bike in the peleton. You are right yellowjeep.