"American Arrow?"
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Bikes: 90's Trek 850, 05 Giant Yukon, and many others that pass through my hands between the junk yard and a new owner
"American Arrow?"
Picked up this bike early this summer and have been enjoying it ever since. It's labeled "American Arrow made in Belgium" with a very cheap label. I posted it earlier on Old Ten Speed Gallery and someone replied that they had an American Arrow made in West Germany. It must be vintage early 70's, because it has a license from 1974. It is surprisingly light, marked "RC tubing," and has alloy wheels, stem and bars; with a steel, cottered crank. The frame is not especially tall, but it is long (almost 2 in longer than a taller Fuji that I own) and fits me well. When riding, it has the feel of a French bike (like a Motobecane I rode a few years ago). All in all, it has a generic look and intriguing features, which makes me so curious who made it, obviously no one "American." The only things I've changed are the bar tape and tires (just things I had in the garage). I know you all like a mystery--can you help me with this one? Thanks.
Bob Johannes
Bob Johannes
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Old thread but responding anyway. I have this same bike. So does my brother...
Picked up this bike early this summer and have been enjoying it ever since. It's labeled "American Arrow made in Belgium" with a very cheap label. I posted it earlier on Old Ten Speed Gallery and someone replied that they had an American Arrow made in West Germany. It must be vintage early 70's, because it has a license from 1974. It is surprisingly light, marked "RC tubing," and has alloy wheels, stem and bars; with a steel, cottered crank. The frame is not especially tall, but it is long (almost 2 in longer than a taller Fuji that I own) and fits me well. When riding, it has the feel of a French bike (like a Motobecane I rode a few years ago). All in all, it has a generic look and intriguing features, which makes me so curious who made it, obviously no one "American." The only things I've changed are the bar tape and tires (just things I had in the garage). I know you all like a mystery--can you help me with this one? Thanks.
Bob Johannes
Bob Johannes
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Hey there,
Any luck with the American Arrow bottom bracket ?
I have an old frame from my dad that I am wanting to convert to a single speed.
I am pretty sure it is and ENGLISH threaded 70mm bb shell.
But I am looking on the internet to find a cartridge bottom bracket and it would seem a 70mm English bb doesn't exist anywhere else, only Italian.
I went to the local shop and he said he could order me something, that Shimano makes one, but I am not 100 % certain the guy understood the threading. I am looking specifically for a 70x107mm for a single speed conversion. I have looked at many bottom brackets online, no 70x107mm English to be found, Shimano or otherwise.
Any luck with yours?
Any luck with the American Arrow bottom bracket ?
I have an old frame from my dad that I am wanting to convert to a single speed.
I am pretty sure it is and ENGLISH threaded 70mm bb shell.
But I am looking on the internet to find a cartridge bottom bracket and it would seem a 70mm English bb doesn't exist anywhere else, only Italian.
I went to the local shop and he said he could order me something, that Shimano makes one, but I am not 100 % certain the guy understood the threading. I am looking specifically for a 70x107mm for a single speed conversion. I have looked at many bottom brackets online, no 70x107mm English to be found, Shimano or otherwise.
Any luck with yours?
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Bikes: 1976 Fuji Sports 10, 1984 Motobecane Team Champion, 1988 Bianchi Campione d'Italia, 1997 Cannondale F400, 1970ish Montgomery Ward's Elite (Flandria? Libertas? Superia!)
Picked up this bike early this summer and have been enjoying it ever since. It's labeled "American Arrow made in Belgium" with a very cheap label. I posted it earlier on Old Ten Speed Gallery and someone replied that they had an American Arrow made in West Germany. It must be vintage early 70's, because it has a license from 1974. It is surprisingly light, marked "RC tubing," and has alloy wheels, stem and bars; with a steel, cottered crank. The frame is not especially tall, but it is long (almost 2 in longer than a taller Fuji that I own) and fits me well. When riding, it has the feel of a French bike (like a Motobecane I rode a few years ago). All in all, it has a generic look and intriguing features, which makes me so curious who made it, obviously no one "American." The only things I've changed are the bar tape and tires (just things I had in the garage). I know you all like a mystery--can you help me with this one? Thanks.
Bob Johannes
Bob Johannes
to the "Show us your Belgian bikes!" thread, you can get the entire run-down of my search. I hope you don't mind that I reposted some of your images that I had saved during my search. It occurred to me only after I posted them that I might have breeched some internet forum etiquette. If I did, I do apologize. I'm brand new to the forum world.
Thank you
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Sorry I can't help with more pictures. Moved to a different house last year and sold the American Arrow to lighten the load (along with 12 other bikes--C&V bike people are accumulators).
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From: Springfield, MO
Bikes: 1976 Fuji Sports 10, 1984 Motobecane Team Champion, 1988 Bianchi Campione d'Italia, 1997 Cannondale F400, 1970ish Montgomery Ward's Elite (Flandria? Libertas? Superia!)
Yes, definitely accumulators!
No problem about the pics. I was wondering, though, if you might remember an unusual detail about the bike which would help me settle my query for the builder of my bike. My Belgian made Montgomery Wards Elite and a couple virtually identical Belgique Cross Rapidixes (or Rapidix Belgique Crosses?) have sort of stippled rear dropouts, with the serial number stamped into the non-drive side dropout. While I could tell that the shape of the dropouts on our bikes appeared to match, I couldn't quite make out that texture detail from your photos. Did the American Arrow have them as well? Of course, I completely understand if you don't remember that mundane detail especially since it seems that you've owned quite a number of bikes. But if you do remember, I could really sigh in relief.
My Montgomery Ward Elite:

Virtually identical Rapidix:

Another Rapidix:


Thanks again!
My Montgomery Ward Elite:
Virtually identical Rapidix:
Another Rapidix:
Thanks again!
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No problem about the pics. I was wondering, though, if you might remember an unusual detail about the bike which would help me settle my query for the builder of my bike. My Belgian made Montgomery Wards Elite and a couple virtually identical Belgique Cross Rapidixes (or Rapidix Belgique Crosses?) have sort of stippled rear dropouts, with the serial number stamped into the non-drive side dropout. While I could tell that the shape of the dropouts on our bikes appeared to match, I couldn't quite make out that texture detail from your photos. Did the American Arrow have them as well? Of course, I completely understand if you don't remember that mundane detail especially since it seems that you've owned quite a number of bikes. But if you do remember, I could really sigh in relief.
My Montgomery Ward Elite:

Virtually identical Rapidix:

Another Rapidix:


Thanks again!
My Montgomery Ward Elite:
Virtually identical Rapidix:
Another Rapidix:
Thanks again!
in about 1976 i assembled a new Belgique tenspeed that i had purchased with a batch of merchandise from a shop which had closed. the bicycle dated from several years earlier, perhaps ~1972-73. it was the same colour as your Montgomery Wards Elite and the beige-gold Rapidix. it had the stipled dropouts you mention.
it was the first i had encountered of the name Belgique. did not know the actual manufacturer.
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Want American Arrow Pics?
hello blitherbike,
in about 1976 i assembled a new Belgique tenspeed that i had purchased with a batch of merchandise from a shop which had closed. the bicycle dated from several years earlier, perhaps ~1972-73. it was the same colour as your Montgomery Wards Elite and the beige-gold Rapidix. it had the stipled dropouts you mention.
it was the first i had encountered of the name Belgique. did not know the actual manufacturer.
in about 1976 i assembled a new Belgique tenspeed that i had purchased with a batch of merchandise from a shop which had closed. the bicycle dated from several years earlier, perhaps ~1972-73. it was the same colour as your Montgomery Wards Elite and the beige-gold Rapidix. it had the stipled dropouts you mention.
it was the first i had encountered of the name Belgique. did not know the actual manufacturer.
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Bikes: 1985 & 1986 Schwinn Peloton, 1986 Schwinn Super Sport, 1985 Schwinn Super Le Tour, 1973 silver Schwinn P13 Pamanount 1972 Chrome Schwinn P13 Paramount
Of course we would like to see pictures. These seem to be interesting bikes. Welcome to the forums as well.
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From: Springfield, MO
Bikes: 1976 Fuji Sports 10, 1984 Motobecane Team Champion, 1988 Bianchi Campione d'Italia, 1997 Cannondale F400, 1970ish Montgomery Ward's Elite (Flandria? Libertas? Superia!)
I finally have regular access to a computer other than my phone!
I'm certain that Big Chainring was right about these bikes being made by Superia. I found a muscle bike on ebay that really helped to confirm that. I posted some pics in the thread Show Us Your Belgian Bikes here:
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...-bikes-11.html
Superia has an interesting story:
1956 - Family Feud
This version seems a bit slanted though, I read somewhere else that the brother who owned Superia eventually bought out financially struggling Flandria and dissolved the Superia name. But that's about all I could find out about the history except for a photo here and there of a pro wearing a Superia jersey.
So now it looks like we can add Belgique to the list- thanks Juvela
Pan World, American Arrow, Rapidix, Montgomery Ward Elite, Belgique...
And- Oberthecat- please post some pics!
I'm certain that Big Chainring was right about these bikes being made by Superia. I found a muscle bike on ebay that really helped to confirm that. I posted some pics in the thread Show Us Your Belgian Bikes here:
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...-bikes-11.html
Superia has an interesting story:
1956 - Family Feud
This version seems a bit slanted though, I read somewhere else that the brother who owned Superia eventually bought out financially struggling Flandria and dissolved the Superia name. But that's about all I could find out about the history except for a photo here and there of a pro wearing a Superia jersey.
So now it looks like we can add Belgique to the list- thanks Juvela
Pan World, American Arrow, Rapidix, Montgomery Ward Elite, Belgique...
And- Oberthecat- please post some pics!
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I know these aren't the best, and I can take more if want to see something specific.
I bought this in 1972, new, from an independent bike dealer, for about $300 - 400. It had a leather Brooks seat, Weinman brakes (not Campy as I said before) , and a Campy derailleur and... I can't remember the wheel brand, but I had upgraded to the best they had available. This is the largest frame they had available - 27". Very light aluminum frame. I still have the original manual... as soon as I find it I can post some photos.
Made in Belgium, bu Superia....
This is the only multi-speed road bike I've ever owned..
I'm not sure if that makes me dumb or just content.
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Hello PHXJoel,
thanks so much for posting these pictures.
readers may be able to contribute more information if you could also upload some images which show the bicycle's drive side from about knee height.
your model looks to have an odd mix of bits.
thanks again.
thanks so much for posting these pictures.
readers may be able to contribute more information if you could also upload some images which show the bicycle's drive side from about knee height.
your model looks to have an odd mix of bits.

thanks again.
#19
They are very basic bike boom machines. They are worth very little. If you are trying to sell it and it's in decent shape, clean it up and ask for $100. If you get lucky someone may give you that much for it, but be prepared to accept less.
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@PXJoel - thanks for posting your pics. Odd mix of parts. Just to be clear, this is NOT and aluminum frame. First, Al frames were not very common if at all available in 1973 time frame. Al frames typically aren't lugged unless they are bonded and they have larger diameter tubes.
You paid a premium at that time. I recall lusting after a Motobecane Le Champion in 1973 while in college and it was $315 new. This was in eastern Washington in a small college town where the market was very limited. At the time, it was rated very high in the production offerings at the time. Custom frames were more expensive, $1500 - $3500, 1972 dollars.
Anyway, aside from those comments, it is important that you like the bike and most of all you enjoy riding it. Do it often!
You paid a premium at that time. I recall lusting after a Motobecane Le Champion in 1973 while in college and it was $315 new. This was in eastern Washington in a small college town where the market was very limited. At the time, it was rated very high in the production offerings at the time. Custom frames were more expensive, $1500 - $3500, 1972 dollars.
Anyway, aside from those comments, it is important that you like the bike and most of all you enjoy riding it. Do it often!
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