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Old 11-25-09, 03:42 PM
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upgrading shifting

what is entailed, (parts replacement and cost), when upgrading from a friction shifting system to index shifting or even an ergo system? current set up is campy victory 12 speed 130mm spacing.
does this type of an upgrade produce dramatic improvement?
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Old 11-25-09, 04:00 PM
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You can change out your freewheel with a $15 SIS one, and dramaticaly improve your friction shifting. You can then pick up some <$20 SIS stem shifters on eBay and have indexed shifting - my wife loves that set up.

I popped $150 for 8 speed Ergos, new cables ($50,) and they work with $20 SIS 7 speed freewheels - no need to replace the wheel, bend the frame, or nothing. (Although I then went on to spend $400-500 on upgrading the drivetrain to 2008 Campy...it all would have worked with the old stuff, too, but my bike deserved some nice stuff.)

You can also spend a lot more and start upgrading everything.

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Old 11-25-09, 04:16 PM
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Its reasonable:

Shimano setup:
FD: $5
RD: $15
Shifters: $20
Freewheel: $15
Chain: $15

Campy: Only dead reliable system uses Ergo levers. As far as I know the most reliable Campy setup would require a cassette hub and associated parts including a cassette. Its my opinion that if you want a campy Ergo setup you should buy a complete bike. Good used bikes with Ergo start around $300-ish with the occasional 'steal' popping up every now and then.
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Old 11-25-09, 05:25 PM
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sounds good to me. just look over ebay and pickup tha above parts simplist way to do it.
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Old 11-25-09, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by miamijim View Post
Its reasonable:

Shimano setup:
FD: $5
RD: $15
Shifters: $20
Freewheel: $15
Chain: $15

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Why would he need all that? Just throw the freewheel and shifters on there, and yer there, if you are looking to do it on the cheap. I had it working with an old Suntour RD, and she's using a 2007 Veloce now. Works fine.
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Jim knows bikes for sure.

The cheapest way to do it is to find a cheap donor bike, swap out parts, and then resell the donor. I have done this with several bikes, and I often accomplish the change at no cost.
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Old 11-26-09, 07:47 AM
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Believe me, pretty much anything will shift better than the Victory RD. I still remember when I swapped mine out for a Centaur and how much of a difference there was.
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Originally Posted by sciencemonster View Post
Why would he need all that? Just throw the freewheel and shifters on there, and yer there, if you are looking to do it on the cheap. I had it working with an old Suntour RD, and she's using a 2007 Veloce now. Works fine.
he will need a indexing compatible RD built ona slant parrellelagram body. IMHO while Victory is great looking kit it will never reliably index. while you can mix and match the shifters and freewheel must match and the RD must be index comaptible.
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I currently have one indexed shifter in use while my other bikes are friction. I don't personally see any significant advantage but for someone not schooled with friction the indexing would probably less intimidating.
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