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Old 02-08-10, 02:42 AM
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Brake Pads/Holders?

I have Dia-Compe 400 calipers that didn't come with pads or holders. I see that Kool Stop makes salmon pads similar to good old standard "10-speed" pads:



Is there an aftermarket holder to accept these? Alternately, what modern pads/shoes do folks commonly use on classic bikes? I'd rather not use the traditional black rubber pad if I don't have to.
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I have a similar question, for my 1987 Schwinn Traveler, a call in to Kool Stop maybe??
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those Salmon pads are more for "Campi" style holders. by the time you purchase thos pads and find holders for them you are better off finding complete replacements. there are lots of nice options unless you really want wheel guides then it gets harder.

now others may disagree with me but: IMHO you need to be sure you replace your pads with something that has a the same width from the caliper arm to the padsurface when new. calipers are designed to be most effective at a certain point and putting the new smaller pads on may not work as well.

here are a few options also the kool stop Continental is a good one and comes in salmon
https://www.loosescrews.com/index.cgi...d=287838027328

https://www.ebikestop.com/jagwire_x_a...0mm-BR1306.php

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I've used those on the GB brakes on both of my Normans from ca 1950; and on the Mafac racers on my Peugeot; and one other bike, I think. The advantage of replacing just the blocks, rather than the whole shoe, is that you can keep the bike closer to stock if that's your preference (in my case, it was). But regardless, you should be able to use them in any kind of metal holder that is open on one side; just slide the old rubber block out and slide the new one in. If your old holder is closed on four sides, I think you can bend one end open --or file it off entirely-- for the same result. Just make sure to put the bent one at the rear.
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but the OP does not have holders
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
but the OP does not have holders
Yes, I understood that, but I wasn't clear whether he had no holders at all, or just didn't have holders he considered appropriate. My point is, almost any holder will do, and I assume any pathological bike part hoarder () would have any number of worn out brake shoes s/he's been saving for just such a purpose.

OP, if you don't have any, PM me and I will see if I can search out a set for you (they won't be Campi's, though).
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Yes, I understood that, but I wasn't clear whether he had no holders at all, or just didn't have holders he considered appropriate. My point is, almost any holder will do, and I assume any pathological bike part hoarder () would have any number of worn out brake shoes s/he's been saving for just such a purpose.

OP, if you don't have any, PM me and I will see if I can search out a set for you (they won't be Campi's, though).
for some reason I am actually one short for a pair of Cobaltos I paid too much for LOL
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
here are a few options also the kool stop Continental is a good one and comes in salmon
https://www.loosescrews.com/index.cgi...d=287838027328
+1 Kool Stop Continentals rock and need no holder
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Originally Posted by rhm
I've used those on the GB brakes on both of my Normans from ca 1950; and on the Mafac racers on my Peugeot; and one other bike, I think. The advantage of replacing just the blocks, rather than the whole shoe, is that you can keep the bike closer to stock if that's your preference (in my case, it was). But regardless, you should be able to use them in any kind of metal holder that is open on one side; just slide the old rubber block out and slide the new one in. If your old holder is closed on four sides, I think you can bend one end open --or file it off entirely-- for the same result. Just make sure to put the bent one at the rear.
If I can get a new set and do as you say, file off (Dremel for me...files, meh ) or open up one end for replacement that would be fine. I'll look into that.

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but the OP does not have holders
Correct, and I knew that, I just didn't think it would be that hard to find something acceptable. I saw the Dia-Compe gray blocks, they are the go-to shoudl I not find anything else. Thanks.

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Yes, I understood that, but I wasn't clear whether he had no holders at all, or just didn't have holders he considered appropriate. My point is, almost any holder will do, and I assume any pathological bike part hoarder () would have any number of worn out brake shoes s/he's been saving for just such a purpose.

OP, if you don't have any, PM me and I will see if I can search out a set for you (they won't be Campi's, though).
I'm pathological (ask my wife) but haven't been doing this long enough to have a parts stash . My hope was to find something stock "looking" but it's not a show stopper.
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Let me look in my box.
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Originally Posted by khatfull
If I can get a new set and do as you say, file off (Dremel for me...files, meh ) or open up one end for replacement that would be fine. I'll look into that.
Right. But don't; the whole point of the ones you showed in your first post is that they let you use the holders that came with your brakes; if you don't have something already, it doesn't make sense to buy something new for this purpose. That'd be like buying a pizza because you want the box.

You can grab the holders off any piece of junk bike you see in the trash, or maybe persuade your local bike shop / co-op to save you a set. If you're going to buy something, get the Koolstop set that includes holders.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
Let me look in my box.
Why sir, do I get the feeling you have a large, or several, boxes
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Originally Posted by khatfull
Why sir, do I get the feeling you have a large, or several, boxes
Stacked and marked, per the OCD manual.

I spent 4 hours in the garage the other night, didn't do a single thing to a bike. But I know where everything is.

I think.

I may have found some pads for you, then I moved them.

I think.

I'll look.

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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
Stacked and marked, per the OCD manual.

I spent 4 hours in the garage the other night, didn't do a single thing to a bike. But I know where everything is.

I think.

I may have found some pads for you, then I moved them.

I think.

I'll look.

I thought I was the only one! Spent all day Sunday emptying my garage sorting through boxes of bike parts looking for my stock of cable ferrules and crimps. Couldn't find them but put all gears in one box, brakes in another, chinsets, saddles and so on. Went out and bought more cable fittings today, went o put them way - and there was the box I'd been looking for, in the right place on the shelf with the label facing the wall! Is this the onset of senlity?
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