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Bogester 04-01-10 10:48 PM

My Honjo'ed Paramount
 
Finally got around to putting Honjos on my Paramount...only took 2 years! Installation wasn't too bad and I think it looks good. These are the looong versions so I might need to put a stay or a rack on the front. I think I'm about done, however, I'm considering going back to non-aero levers...what do you think?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4032/...a8b5b75226.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7750242...7594068748083/

Mos6502 04-01-10 11:25 PM

I think a front rack may interfere with the barcon cable routing. Looks nice though. Why would you want non aero levers BTW?

cudak888 04-01-10 11:31 PM

Beautiful - and I agree on the non-aero levers. Go with something nice and period. Either that, or replace those awful-looking Tektros (sorry to those who are undoubtedly offended) with a nice, classic C&V aero lever.

-Kurt

RFC 04-01-10 11:52 PM

Brillant. But keep the present brakes (Tektros?) more comfortable and more power.

Bogester 04-02-10 12:08 AM


Originally Posted by Mos6502 (Post 10612062)
I think a front rack may interfere with the barcon cable routing. Looks nice though. Why would you want non aero levers BTW?

Kind of a conundrum. I think the Tektro's are the most comfortable, most useful, best working lever on the market...BUT, on a Paramount I think they look a little out of place...we'll see. Can always change them later.

cuda2k 04-02-10 05:20 AM

If you haven't already, polish off the 'Tektro' name off the front of the lever. With a dremel polishing pad and a little Mother's mag polish it takes all of about 10 seconds each. Really helps them from screaming 'MODERN' quite so loudly. :thumb: I have a pair on my 78 Gazelle A-Frame and agree they are the most comfortable and best working lever out t here - which is why at one point I had like 3 sets. I'm actually thinking of buying a spare bar/stem to mount period correct levers on so I can swap back and forth quickly for times I want comfort vs period correct. :lol:

pastorbobnlnh 04-02-10 06:11 AM

Beautiful build!

You could always run the shifter cables all the way under the bar tape to near the stem. I did this on one of my bikes and it shifted just well as a bike with barend shift cables installed the classic way.

Now all you need are some red canvas bags to match the bar tape and cables.

cb400bill 04-02-10 06:28 AM

Nice looking bike!

At first glance I thought those flowers were some kind of spoke card. LOL!

khatfull 04-02-10 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by cuda2k (Post 10612451)
If you haven't already, polish off the 'Tektro' name off the front of the lever. With a dremel polishing pad and a little Mother's mag polish it takes all of about 10 seconds each. Really helps them from screaming 'MODERN' quite so loudly. :thumb: I have a pair on my 78 Gazelle A-Frame and agree they are the most comfortable and best working lever out t here - which is why at one point I had like 3 sets. I'm actually thinking of buying a spare bar/stem to mount period correct levers on so I can swap back and forth quickly for times I want comfort vs period correct. :lol:

If the Tektros only came in white :(

Grand Bois 04-02-10 07:58 AM

I agree with Kurt about the levers. They may be comfortable, but they're ugly. It's better to look good than to feel good.

A T.A. rack can be used to support the fender and will not interfere with the cables. http://cgi.ebay.com/NOS-Mafac-racer-...item2eab145bf0

RFC 04-02-10 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by Grand Bois (Post 10612929)
I agree with Kurt about the levers. They may be comfortable, but they're ugly. It's better to look good than to feel good.

A T.A. rack can be used to support the fender and will not interfere with the cables. http://cgi.ebay.com/NOS-Mafac-racer-...item2eab145bf0

At last, someone here admits it.

cudak888 04-02-10 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by RFC (Post 10613196)
At last, someone here admits it.

What's more, the best part about good-looking C&V stuff: Just because it looks good doesn't mean it's uncomfortable either.

-Kurt

cs1 04-02-10 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by cudak888 (Post 10612081)
Beautiful - and I agree on the non-aero levers. Go with something nice and period. Either that, or replace those awful-looking Tektros (sorry to those who are undoubtedly offended) with a nice, classic C&V aero lever.

-Kurt

I love non aero levers. I hate the price of gum hoods though. Gum hoods cost 2 - 3 times what the levers do.

Grand Bois 04-02-10 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by cuda2k (Post 10612451)
If you haven't already, polish off the 'Tektro' name off the front of the lever. With a dremel polishing pad and a little Mother's mag polish it takes all of about 10 seconds each. Really helps them from screaming 'MODERN' quite so loudly. :thumb: I have a pair on my 78 Gazelle A-Frame and agree they are the most comfortable and best working lever out t here - which is why at one point I had like 3 sets. I'm actually thinking of buying a spare bar/stem to mount period correct levers on so I can swap back and forth quickly for times I want comfort vs period correct. :lol:

Another way is to use paint stripper. The logos are stamped on with paint. If you dab on some stripper it will dissolve the logos instantly. It will have no effect on the clear anodizing. A damp rag or paper towel will remove all traces of the stripper

cyclotoine 04-02-10 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Grand Bois (Post 10612929)
I agree with Kurt about the levers. They may be comfortable, but they're ugly. It's better to look good than to feel good.

A T.A. rack can be used to support the fender and will not interfere with the cables. http://cgi.ebay.com/NOS-Mafac-racer-...item2eab145bf0

Is that plate meant to mount on the front of the crown or the back? It looks like back to me which means those bars would go under the crown? what? Seems like a tight fit.

mkeller234 04-02-10 01:10 PM

Looks awesome. I even like the Tektro levers on it.

Grand Bois 04-02-10 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by cyclotoine (Post 10613775)
Is that plate meant to mount on the front of the crown or the back? It looks like back to me which means those bars would go under the crown? what? Seems like a tight fit.

It mounts on the front of the crown and on the front of the brake. I just read that they will not work with Dia Compe/Weinmann brakes because the brakes are too thick. Scratch that idea.

southpawboston 04-02-10 06:45 PM

bogester, your paramount is stunning, even with the tektro aero levers. i agree, adding an additional stay might inprove the stability of those long honjos. i have the same problem with a long front velo orange fender. if you go the rack route, i doubt it would interfere with the bar-end cables, and a rack will stabilize the fender better than an additional stay.

Bikedued 04-02-10 06:54 PM

They have gum looking hoods for the tekro levers?? I think I remember finding those recently? That would make a HUGE improvement
in the looks dept. Overall though a really sweet looking bike! You should see the one at my LBS!! Chrome single speed Paramount with
chrome wrap ergo bars, Honjo's, one of the super sweet Italian cutout seatposts, etc etc. It's pretty radical, but he doesn't believe in posting
pics of his bikes on the internet. A shame, it's gorgeous in person.,,,,BD

Just did a search, and only Cane Creek gum hoods came up. Maybe with more searching, not sure...

JunkYardBike 04-02-10 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by RFC (Post 10613196)
At last, someone here admits it.

I'd like to know when the last time the C&V fashionistas spent 8 hours on a bike (riding it, not wrenching on it).

Beautiful build, Bogester, as is.

cudak888 04-02-10 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by Bikedued (Post 10615699)
It's pretty radical, but he doesn't believe in posting
pics of his bikes on the internet.

So what does this git do? Pull out his 12 gauge whenever anyone with a camera saunters through his shop door?

-Kurt

EjustE 04-02-10 07:06 PM

Aesthetically, the Tektro levels do not bother me as much as those loops of the derailleur cable housing up front (you can probably cut a foot off those and still be fine) or the size of the frame pump (should be flush to the TT), but that's nitpicking :)

That said, this is a great looking bike and those levers work better than the original equipment on that bike, so enjoy it :) (and cut a foot off those cables, where you are at it)

Bikedued 04-02-10 07:13 PM

Yeah Kurt, I dunno. His brother and co/owner is a pretty severe martial arts guy, maybe they slash photographers Kung Fu style.,,,,BD:D

Mr IGH 04-02-10 08:15 PM

Nice bike, tough crowd.

cudak888 04-02-10 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by Bikedued (Post 10615807)
Yeah Kurt, I dunno. His brother and co/owner is a pretty severe martial arts guy, maybe they slash photographers Kung Fu style.,,,,BD:D

"Huckney yuknanai, honng pikthure nowie!"

-Kurt

Bogester 04-03-10 01:01 AM


Originally Posted by JunkYardBike (Post 10615731)
I'd like to know when the last time the C&V fashionistas spent 8 hours on a bike (riding it, not wrenching on it).

Beautiful build, Bogester, as is.

Thanks to all the kind comments and the critical ones as well. For good or bad I'm a rider...I tinker when forced to (I only finished installing the fenders because mom was visiting and it's raining buckets!!)...that's why this project took about 5 years to finish. I'll ride it awhile and see how it goes. I'll likely make some changes but any updates probably won't be happening until the next snowstorm hits:).

luker 04-03-10 07:00 PM

here, the next snowstorm is tomorrow. Last snowstorm was this morning. I'd loooove to ride a bike outside for 8 hours. Any bike.

I think the bike looks very nice, and the fenders are way better looking than any of my fender installs...

bobbycorno 04-03-10 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by Grand Bois (Post 10612929)
It's better to look good than to feel good.

Well, not if you actually RIDE the bike...

SP
Bend, OR

cudak888 04-03-10 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by bobbycorno (Post 10619640)
Well, not if you actually RIDE the bike...

I refer you to post #12: Just because it looks good doesn't mean it's uncomfortable either.

-Kurt

Bikedued 04-03-10 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by cudak888 (Post 10616256)
"Huckney yuknanai, honng pikthure nowie!"

-Kurt

"Can(Do?) you understand the words that are coming outta my mouth?" Chris Tucker... :lol:


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