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ftwelder 05-12-10 07:39 PM

name that lug
 
who made this frame? Thanks!

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1406/...41d6693927.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1406/...41d6693927.jpg

USAZorro 05-12-10 07:43 PM

Given the "EF", I'd guess it's a Schwinn electro-forged.

Purely a guess that one of the Schwinn aficionados could quickly dispel.

It's definitely not one of the most elegant lugs you'll ever see.

CrankyFranky 05-12-10 08:35 PM

Given the chance, I'd name it "Lugly" or perhaps "l'ugly"

Bianchigirll 05-12-10 08:43 PM

maybe it was a bonous from E.F. Hutton

cudak888 05-12-10 08:50 PM

Dick O. Lugnut.

-Kurt

ftwelder 05-13-10 04:04 AM


Originally Posted by cudak888 (Post 10804016)
Dick O. Lugnut.

-Kurt

Please explain, thanks.

cudak888 05-13-10 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by ftwelder (Post 10804944)
Please explain, thanks.

It's - ahem - phallic.

That fact aside though, it looks as if it was cut from a generic blank lug. Note the slight angle to the socket at the front - it hasn't been filed off, or filed round. I can't think of it at the moment, but I've seen at least one other lug with this same edge to it, unfinished. Can't remember if this was on an English bike or a Japanese bike. I'd lean towards the latter.

-Kurt

ftwelder 05-13-10 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by cudak888 (Post 10805547)
It's - ahem - phallic.

That fact aside though, it looks as if it was cut from a generic blank lug. Note the slight angle to the socket at the front - it hasn't been filed off, or filed round. I can't think of it at the moment, but I've seen at least one other lug with this same edge to it, unfinished. Can't remember if this was on an English bike or a Japanese bike. I'd lean towards the latter.

-Kurt

I think you are correct, though not sure. Perhaps an old Araya touring bike. It also has a rare Will stem and some freaky rare wheels with Durkopp hubs, omelinchuk rims and Gommitalia tires.

Zaphod Beeblebrox 05-13-10 12:44 PM

Doubtful its electro forged... Electro Forged frames have smooth joints that look like Fillet Brazed frames until you pick it up and realize it weighs 35 pounds.

USAZorro 05-13-10 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by Zaphod Beeblebrox (Post 10807036)
Doubtful its electro forged... Electro Forged frames have smooth joints that look like Fillet Brazed frames until you pick it up and realize it weighs 35 pounds.

If those seat stay ends didn't look like the Schwinn steel rods, I would never have postulated this. :o

Zaphod Beeblebrox 05-13-10 01:32 PM

:o Very good point, I didn't consider that at all...I simply saw lugs and said "Nah can't be EF"

but you're right, those stays do look quite schwinny.

noglider 05-13-10 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by Zaphod Beeblebrox (Post 10807036)
Doubtful its electro forged... Electro Forged frames have smooth joints that look like Fillet Brazed frames until you pick it up and realize it weighs 35 pounds.

The EF marked on the lug don't mean electroforged. A frame is made that way, or it's made with lugs. Not both at once.

JML 05-13-10 02:06 PM

I think the lug's name is "Cheap N. Ugly."

USAZorro 05-13-10 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 10807427)
The EF marked on the lug don't mean electroforged. A frame is made that way, or it's made with lugs. Not both at once.

Like I said, I didn't know. Thought it could have meant "welded by robots weilding arc welders". Less stress risers than an unshaped lug, but far from elegant.

cudak888 05-13-10 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by ftwelder (Post 10806976)
I think you are correct, though not sure. Perhaps an old Araya touring bike. It also has a rare Will stem and some freaky rare wheels with Durkopp hubs, omelinchuk rims and Gommitalia tires.

That is a mess.

Post a photo of the Durkopp hubs/wheels. I'm always curious about that brand.

-Kurt

ftwelder 05-13-10 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by cudak888 (Post 10807629)
That is a mess.

Post a photo of the Durkopp hubs/wheels. I'm always curious about that brand.

-Kurt


The rear hub is still unknown to me. It is stamped with only "made in France" it is a flip flop and an aluminum track cog spun on the exposed side and left it's threads in the threads of this hub.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1387/...d3c10d857b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1387/...d3c10d857b.jpg

Zaphod Beeblebrox 05-13-10 05:24 PM

that looks exactly like the front hub on my Durkopp.

cudak888 05-13-10 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by ftwelder (Post 10808087)
The rear hub is still unknown to me. It is stamped with only "made in France" it is a flip flop and an aluminum track cog spun on the exposed side and left it's threads in the threads of this hub.

Only the front is Durkopp then. Interesting. Gnarly dropouts there - is that the matching fork to the frame you link above?

-Kurt

oldbobcat 05-16-10 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by cudak888 (Post 10808523)
Only the front is Durkopp then. Interesting. Gnarly dropouts there - is that the matching fork to the frame you link above?

-Kurt

The whole fork is gnarly. It resembles the "wide stance" fork touted for this year's Gary Fisher Cronus road bike.

cudak888 05-16-10 10:53 PM

I'm more and more curious about seeing the entire thing...

-Kurt

ftwelder 05-17-10 04:05 AM

I ran into the guy I got the bike from and asked him where/when he got it. He said he picked it up about a month ago. He has no recollection of where he got it.

It also has CLB brakes with a red "racer" logo and a very, very old B17 saddle.

I will take a barrage of photos and put a link up.

I took a slightly closer look at the fork and it's likely the original from the frame. It looks funace brazed, high volume. The chrome is a fitted cap. It looks to be either modified or repaired however.


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