Chain width ignorance
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What??? Only 2 wheels?


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Chain width ignorance
I've been riding with a 5-speed freewheel so long I don' t know how to count to six. But with a 126mm rear hub I could go to 6 or even 7. Don't know if it's worth the trouble. Unless I have to drop down to the smaller chainring most of my riding uses only 3 gears, with the very occasional foray into high (48/14).
If I went to a 6 or 7-speed freewheel or cassette would I need a new, narrower chain?
If I went to a 6 or 7-speed freewheel or cassette would I need a new, narrower chain?
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Six would still work with a regular width chain but you would need to go to a narrow chaiin with a 126mm spaced 7 speed system. I put togther a 7 speed system for my bike last year with a Maillard Compact Plus freewheel and it shifts beautifully with a narrow Sedis SL chain. which was sold by Campagnolo and Mavic and also re-branded later as a Sedis/Sachs narrow chain. The classic narrow Sedis chain pops up once in a while at eBay if you want to get something period correct, but IIRC, many have noted here that they also have good results with new narrow chains from SRAM too for seven speed systems.
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Six would still work with a regular width chain but you would need to go to a narrow chaiin with a 126mm spaced 7 speed system. I put togther a 7 speed system for my bike last year with a Maillard Compact Plus freewheel and it shifts beautifully with a narrow Sedis SL chain. which was sold by Campagnolo and Mavic and also re-branded later as a Sedis/Sachs narrow chain. The classic narrow Sedis chain pops up once in a while at eBay if you want to get something period correct, but IIRC, many have noted here that they also have good results with new narrow chains from SRAM too for seven speed systems.
Or am I missing something?
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I've been riding with a 5-speed freewheel so long I don' t know how to count to six. But with a 126mm rear hub I could go to 6 or even 7. Don't know if it's worth the trouble. Unless I have to drop down to the smaller chainring most of my riding uses only 3 gears, with the very occasional foray into high (48/14).
If I went to a 6 or 7-speed freewheel or cassette would I need a new, narrower chain?
If I went to a 6 or 7-speed freewheel or cassette would I need a new, narrower chain?
Changing the freewheel to a 6 or 7 speed can cause other issues, if you have an indexed shifter then you need to replace that, you need to make sure that the RD has enough room to accommodate the new number of gears. Some can, some can't. Typically though a 5 speed RD can accommodate at least 6 and a 6 speed at least 7, but going from 5 to 7 might be a little tight.
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What??? Only 2 wheels?


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Thanks.
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Aren't you making it pretty complicated? Brand preferences aside, my experience has been that all currently produced chain designated 5, 6, 7, or 8 speed works fine with any of those numbers of cogs--just don't try to go up to 9, which does require narrower chain.
Or am I missing something?
Or am I missing something?
I also just want to make sure that I could back up any suggestions I post here with as much "real working" facts and details that I actually experienced to be as helpful as possible and avoid confusion.
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Okay, I get it now. The answer is yes, your 5 speed chain will work with six speeds. But if you're replacing your freewheel, it's always a good idea to replace the chain at the same time.
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