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Old 06-12-10 | 08:10 PM
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Really?

Have you ever paid a viewing fee?This guy thinks you should.
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Vintage Raleigh Pursuit Bicycle - $4000 (Chicago)

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Date: 2010-06-12, 8:21PM CDT
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This sale is limited to serious collectors. This is 51cm c-c, Raleigh SPD Ilkeston track bike by O’Donovan. Original owner was a World Cycling Champion.
1) Local pick-up only.
2) Cash & Carry (receipt & provenance provided).
3) Price: $4000.00
4) Viewing fee: $60.00 cash, refunded upon purchase.
Lookers, lowballers, scammers, pic collectors, crooks, etc. don’t even bother to e-mail. Since it is a local sale, everything will be answered in-person and you can look at the bike at the meeting after the payment of the fee for my time. Sorry, but this is a business transaction and not a social networking time.



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Old 06-12-10 | 08:29 PM
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And, the inevitable retort post. Bad words are used.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bik/1789139644.html
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Old 06-12-10 | 08:36 PM
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Bad words might be in order - He wants big bucks but evidentially has been using it as a trainer!

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Old 06-12-10 | 11:34 PM
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you know that was coming.I wonder if you go as a group if the $60 will cover all
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Old 06-12-10 | 11:48 PM
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that's a major bullcrap (and overpriced factorially)
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Old 06-13-10 | 12:47 AM
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"Pay per view" CL ad...


wow.

Gigantic "attachments", that person has...
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Old 06-13-10 | 12:54 AM
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Well, if it's any solace, his forks are probably bent. But he did take a picture in front of a white garage door...
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Old 06-13-10 | 01:53 AM
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Some people seem to think their time is worth a lot of money. Then again, those people are idiots, generally (or lawyers).
How does the refund work? Do you pay him $3,940? Or do you pay him the $4,000 and then he gives you the $60 back?
Whatever. I doubt it'll sell, just another jerk with internet access and a bit too much imagined self-importance.
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Old 06-13-10 | 02:43 AM
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Yesterday I spent an hour showing a guy intermodal shipping containers I have listed on CL. After 45 mins of taking photos and kicking the 2500 lbs metal box in the rain (and I broke a couple of fingers earlier yesterday, so I wasn't feeling too fun) he asked me if he could give me 10% and hold it for him for a month. He then thought for that price (cheap) he should see what I paid for it and we should go somewhere to negotiate (but he was afraid to go INSIDE the container LOL) . He also wanted a discount for having to move the container.
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Old 06-13-10 | 04:34 AM
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I love how it's a "Raleigh SPD Ilkeston track bike ... " - dude can't even tell his Special Bicycle Developments products from his Shimano clip-in pedals.
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Old 06-13-10 | 07:16 AM
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No "lowballers", so I guess a $25 offer to view the bike is out of the question.
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Old 06-13-10 | 07:30 AM
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Crooks shouldn't bother to email, presumably since, you know, he's already connected to them via the Crook Forum.
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Old 06-13-10 | 07:35 AM
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OK, so how much should I charge to see the 78 Raleigh Grand Prix I'm going to flip. Based on the value of the GP vs the $4000 he wants for that thing, I calculate $1.50. Of course I'll deduct the $1.50 from the selling price if the viewer buys the bike and of course I'll put in the phrase, "No Low-ballers".
So whada'ya think?
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Old 06-13-10 | 07:48 AM
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I wonder what happens to lowballers? Does he actually have some consequences planned for anyone who sends a low-ball offer?
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Old 06-13-10 | 07:50 AM
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Old 06-13-10 | 07:53 AM
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Well he has covered all of his bases by stating "serious collectors only" and with the usual "no scammers, etc..." so we really have no recourse but to buy it or move on.

When a CL poster's conditions are clearly written, we just have to accept his terms. That's how the internets work.

Man, I was just looking for one flaw in his ad so that I could become indignant!
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Old 06-13-10 | 07:54 AM
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I wonder what happens to lowballers? Does he actually have some consequences planned for anyone who sends a low-ball offer?
I'll let you know...
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Old 06-13-10 | 07:56 AM
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The thing that annoys me most, both as a buyer and seller is when people don't show up for appointments. I suggest we all contact him and schedule an appointment.
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Old 06-13-10 | 08:23 AM
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Its your typical Chicago dickified bike jag. I run into these guys on group rides all the time.
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Old 06-13-10 | 08:23 AM
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The thing that annoys me most, both as a buyer and seller is when people don't show up for appointments. I suggest we all contact him and schedule an appointment.
perfect....
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Old 06-13-10 | 08:24 AM
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I suggest we all contact him and schedule an appointment.
Excuse me while I find a pay phone

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Old 06-13-10 | 08:36 AM
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Chicago is full of funny bikes for sale. I think I'd go this route and save $3300.
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bik/1789480219.html

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Old 06-13-10 | 09:12 AM
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I think that paramount has some drive train issues.
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Old 06-13-10 | 09:37 AM
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I think that paramount has some drive train issues.
It's a push bike.

btw, does the stand over hight depend upon where you are standing on that thing?
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Old 06-13-10 | 09:48 AM
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Unless there's some major hot babe boobquake going on with it, I aint payin no money for watchin.
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