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1948 Raleigh Super Sports - early post-war 531 machine

Old 07-17-10, 06:01 PM
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1948 Raleigh Super Sports - early post-war 531 machine

This beauty (a work in progress) stopped by today. Has a 4-speed FW hub which is being quite cranky at the moment.







The Dynohub was missing it's all-important, 4-tooth cone adjustment washer - a part used only prior to their axle redesign in 1952 - see part LB 121. The armature was dragging on the magnet because of its absence.

I went through every drawer trying to find a replacement to no avail, but found unlikely luck in a "Chair Made," Chinese Sturmey-Archer drum brake ripoff that had been gathering rust and dust in my bin for the last 3 years. It had the same exact washer sitting in it. Five minutes later, it was sitting on this Dynohub:









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Wow, that's a beauty, I love the crankset and pedals!
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Originally Posted by Chris_in_Miami
Wow, that's a beauty, I love the crankset and pedals!
I'm pretty sure the pedals are garden-variety '70s fare, but the crankset is a Williams 3-pin with a Raleigh ring. Crank cotters are loose too - I advised him to pick up a set from Mark Stonich.

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Looks nice. Good score with the nut on the dynohub! It must be a blast to ride.

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Originally Posted by rusty wheels
Looks nice. Good score with the nut on the dynohub! It must be a blast to ride.
It is. Mind you, despite being 531, the steel rims (the rear Special Lightweight was respoked into a garden-variety Endrick at one time), hubs, Dyno, and everything else easily brings this guy into the 35 pound range. Nevertheless, it doesn't feel that heavy on the road. Quite responsive.

We tried to get the Dyno to light up the bulb. It was, but it kept shorting out when the reflector was installed (and it zapped me a couple of times to boot). In retrospect, I have a feeling that the lens was shorting out on the nuts holding the electrical leads to the circuit board.

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That's a nice, unique ride. Was this a bicycle that was brought right into the US market, or one that came in already used? In 1948 it would have been a unique ride here it the US considering what usually was available and what most people who rode were on.
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Originally Posted by SirMike1983
That's a nice, unique ride. Was this a bicycle that was brought right into the US market, or one that came in already used? In 1948 it would have been a unique ride here it the US considering what usually was available and what most people who rode were on.
It is an import here to the U.S. - didn't end up on this side of the pond until 2010.

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Oh wow - That is just too cool!
And orange with white too...
- It's like a cream-sickle !
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Originally Posted by auchencrow
Oh wow - That is just too cool!
And orange with white too...
- It's like a cream-sickle !
Indeed. The early post-war Raleigh-produced roadbikes had absolutely jaw-dropping colors. Take the Rudge Aero for instance - also orange (polychromatic, if I recall right), with black transfers. The transfers on this '48 Super Sports used to be blue.

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Why are these never my size?
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That's a great looking bike, love the orange and white. That headlight looks more like a police spot light, very cool indeed.

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I love the orange and white color scheme. Thanks for sharing!
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Beautiful...the crankset is right out there with fluted arms and 3 pins.
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Originally Posted by Michael Angelo
That's a great looking bike, love the orange and white. That headlight looks more like a police spot light, very cool indeed.
The fun bit is how the light flickers when under power. That look alone is C&V. You can spot a Dynohub-lighted machine from a mile away.

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Beautiful...the crankset is right out there with fluted arms and 3 pins.
Isn't it though? I wouldn't want to have to find a replacement ring for it...

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Kurt,

The thread was not reported, and as far as I can tell, it was an unintentional mistake made when moving a reported thread that may have been directly above, or below this one.
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Hmm, I wonder what that bike is worth?

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Originally Posted by USAZorro
The thread was not reported, and as far as I can tell, it was an unintentional mistake made when moving a reported thread that may have been directly above, or below this one.
Hmm, that's odd. One of the mods suggested that it was, though - of course - reports are confidential.

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Hmm, I wonder what that bike is worth?
Shaddup, Neal - you'll get the newbies descending on the thread.

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Originally Posted by cudak888
Shaddup, Neal - you'll get the newbies descending on the thread.

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Hah! Just for that, here's a shot of my 1949 Raleigh Clubman. I do wonder what the paint would have looked like originally:



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Originally Posted by cudak888
It is. Mind you, despite being 531, the steel rims (the rear Special Lightweight was respoked into a garden-variety Endrick at one time), hubs, Dyno, and everything else easily brings this guy into the 35 pound range. Nevertheless, it doesn't feel that heavy on the road. Quite responsive.

We tried to get the Dyno to light up the bulb. It was, but it kept shorting out when the reflector was installed (and it zapped me a couple of times to boot). In retrospect, I have a feeling that the lens was shorting out on the nuts holding the electrical leads to the circuit board.

-Kurt
Long ago, that Reynolds transfer meant that THAT tube was 531, not the three main tubes, just that TUBE, hey they even used creative marketing back then...
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Originally Posted by sailorbenjamin
Why are these never my size?
Oh, I know the answer to that, it's because you're tall!

Originally Posted by repechage
Long ago, that Reynolds transfer meant that THAT tube was 531, not the three main tubes, just that TUBE, hey they even used creative marketing back then...
I wonder about that.

My '58 Lenton Grand Prix has that tube transfer, same location; and that tube takes a 25.4 mm seat post, just like a standard gaspipe Raleigh of the same period. My gaspipe Norman three speed takes a 26.4 mm post, so must be made out of considerably lighter material. One of these days I'll strip the frame down and weigh it... just out of curiosity.

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When you do that, start a thread, "oddball weight weenies" or something.
My India Hercules, which should be a tank, is my lightest frame.
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Originally Posted by repechage
Long ago, that Reynolds transfer meant that THAT tube was 531, not the three main tubes, just that TUBE, hey they even used creative marketing back then...




I wonder about that.
I recall reading an advert. or something simular a while back that the main tubes of the Super Sport were 531 which seperated it from the #21. The two frames shared the same geometry. It think..if I remembered correctly?

What a cool bike to see! I love the Orange, it weathered well, has such a classic look. Do you know the story of how it got to the States?
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Originally Posted by Andrew F
I recall reading an advert. or something simular a while back that the main tubes of the Super Sport were 531 which seperated it from the #21.
I'm sure they'd say it, whether legitimate or not. Heck, the 531 Schwinn Superiors sometimes got a Columbus SL tube installed in them here or there - not that it was relabeled to indicate such.

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Do you know the story of how it got to the States?
Yep - in a brown box. He bought it a few months ago off eBay

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Yep - in a brown box. He bought it a few months ago off eBay

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So there is some good in eBay after all
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Beautiful bike--love the color and the crazy typeface--it looks almost Western-inspired! Re the Dynohubs--I now own three Raleighs with beautiful Dynohub-powered lights and so far none of them is functional. I have to juggle a little bit with new bulbs and so on, but I'm no electrician and a little antsy about getting "zapped." Neal--if you know anyone in our neck of the woods who likes to tinker with these, let me know.
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The fun bit is how the light flickers when under power. That look alone is C&V. You can spot a Dynohub-lighted machine from a mile away.



Isn't it though? I wouldn't want to have to find a replacement ring for it...

-Kurt
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