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Old 08-05-10 | 07:38 AM
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Ghost shifting - wooooo!

Is it possible to promote RD ghost shifting by having too much cable tension?

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That's it!I thought so but I don't recall ever reading it. And have never experienced it before.

Is it so esoteric or unlikely a factor (too tight) that it could vary by marque or model? Any rule of thumb or technical method you use to git right from the git-go. Or is it a matter of refinement between stand and road adjustment?

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Assuming you are asking about a friction shifting system. Then only if you have a very flexible frame and/or a very large/strong person. "Ghost shifting" is caused more by shifters that are not adjusted tight enough. For a friction system cable tension should just be snug, not crazy tight. But it should not matter too much if the shifters are adjusted properly.
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Old 08-05-10 | 10:28 AM
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It can also be caused by worn out housing or cables, or frequently from road grit on the guides under the bottom bracket.
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I've also heard that it can be caused by ghosts...ask her:

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Thanks for the input guys. It is a friction system, but everything else you mention is already accounted for - NEW - including my favorites and the best shifters I know of - Simplex retrofriction. The one thing I notice out of the ordinary is the unusually taut tension compared to past setups and experience. I was looking for a little stretch to settle it out.

I would have gone ahead on my deduction even absent Kurt's cryptic, spare comment. I do trust his knowledge on these kinds of matters. Heck, he even has videos.

I'll report back soonest. Including details on drivetrain and frame. It has happened only 3-4 times and always when I am mashing.

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I vote for calling in Jennifer Love Hewitt.
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I vote for calling in Jennifer Love Hewitt.
I wholeheartedly concur (obviously )
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It was happening to a friend of mine over this past weekend. When she was pedaling at a constant cadence or accelerating there was no issue, but if she coasted and then resumed pedaling she'd get ghost shifts.

Problem turned out to be a shot RD. The joints in the parallelogram were badly worn out and at rest you could move the RD about 1.5 cogs space in either direction. Trashola. Swapped in a new RD and everything was perfect.
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Originally Posted by Zaphod Beeblebrox
It was happening to a friend of mine over this past weekend. When she was pedaling at a constant cadence or accelerating there was no issue, but if she coasted and then resumed pedaling she'd get ghost shifts.

Problem turned out to be a shot RD. The joints in the parallelogram were badly worn out and at rest you could move the RD about 1.5 cogs space in either direction. Trashola. Swapped in a new RD and everything was perfect.
You mean worn out parts affect performance? Pshaw! Perish the thought!
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Wow a thread with Jennifer Love Hewitt in it!

Can my day get any more better!!!!
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Thread sabotage ..........but I'll allow it since I already got my answer.

You all can have the dadblame thing all to to yurselves now. While I plan revenge.

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I've also heard that it can be caused by ghosts...ask her:

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Sorry, any chance to post a pic of JLH must be taken advantage of. My apologies for the hijack...

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No problem, have at it. I know your intent is good natured.

I'm done, post more pics ........ show more eerrr..... body parts, a bare shoulder, an ankle.......Show some imagination.... (my favoritesmileyface)

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Sorry, any chance to post a pic of JLH must be taken advantage of. My apologies for the hijack...

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No problem, have at it. I know your intent is good natured.

I'm done, post more pics ........ show more eerrr..... body parts, a bare shoulder, an ankle.......Show some imagination.... (my favoritesmileyface)

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Let's see her in Lycra, (or wool, since this is C&V), astride a panto'd Italian steed!
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Let's see her in Lycra, (or wool, since this is C&V), astride a panto'd Italian steed!
way too easy to get this to the gutter...
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I'm talking about a road bike, numbnuts!
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I've also heard that it can be caused by ghosts...ask her:

That's what I'm talking about...... "Let me help you with your bike, dear......"
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