Ghost shifting - wooooo!
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Ghost shifting - wooooo!
Is it possible to promote RD ghost shifting by having too much cable tension?
Thanks.
J
Thanks.
J
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That's it!I thought so but I don't recall ever reading it. And have never experienced it before.
Is it so esoteric or unlikely a factor (too tight) that it could vary by marque or model? Any rule of thumb or technical method you use to git right from the git-go. Or is it a matter of refinement between stand and road adjustment?
Thanks, Kurt.
Julian
Is it so esoteric or unlikely a factor (too tight) that it could vary by marque or model? Any rule of thumb or technical method you use to git right from the git-go. Or is it a matter of refinement between stand and road adjustment?
Thanks, Kurt.
Julian
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Assuming you are asking about a friction shifting system. Then only if you have a very flexible frame and/or a very large/strong person. "Ghost shifting" is caused more by shifters that are not adjusted tight enough. For a friction system cable tension should just be snug, not crazy tight. But it should not matter too much if the shifters are adjusted properly.
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Thanks for the input guys. It is a friction system, but everything else you mention is already accounted for - NEW - including my favorites and the best shifters I know of - Simplex retrofriction. The one thing I notice out of the ordinary is the unusually taut tension compared to past setups and experience. I was looking for a little stretch to settle it out.
I would have gone ahead on my deduction even absent Kurt's cryptic, spare comment. I do trust his knowledge on these kinds of matters. Heck, he even has videos.
I'll report back soonest. Including details on drivetrain and frame. It has happened only 3-4 times and always when I am mashing.
J
I would have gone ahead on my deduction even absent Kurt's cryptic, spare comment. I do trust his knowledge on these kinds of matters. Heck, he even has videos.
I'll report back soonest. Including details on drivetrain and frame. It has happened only 3-4 times and always when I am mashing.
J
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It was happening to a friend of mine over this past weekend. When she was pedaling at a constant cadence or accelerating there was no issue, but if she coasted and then resumed pedaling she'd get ghost shifts.
Problem turned out to be a shot RD. The joints in the parallelogram were badly worn out and at rest you could move the RD about 1.5 cogs space in either direction. Trashola. Swapped in a new RD and everything was perfect.
Problem turned out to be a shot RD. The joints in the parallelogram were badly worn out and at rest you could move the RD about 1.5 cogs space in either direction. Trashola. Swapped in a new RD and everything was perfect.
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It was happening to a friend of mine over this past weekend. When she was pedaling at a constant cadence or accelerating there was no issue, but if she coasted and then resumed pedaling she'd get ghost shifts.
Problem turned out to be a shot RD. The joints in the parallelogram were badly worn out and at rest you could move the RD about 1.5 cogs space in either direction. Trashola. Swapped in a new RD and everything was perfect.
Problem turned out to be a shot RD. The joints in the parallelogram were badly worn out and at rest you could move the RD about 1.5 cogs space in either direction. Trashola. Swapped in a new RD and everything was perfect.
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