compact drivetrain on your cv frame
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compact drivetrain on your cv frame
Anyone running 50/34 crank with their 11t cassette on their 80s 90s cv frame? If so, when the chain is on the 11t, is the chain rubbing the frame? Anyway to avoid this? Put more spacers to increase the OLD?
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I'm running a 50/34 with an 11.34 on my Ciocc, but it is a 10 speed and I've had the frame spread. It works flawlessly.
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My wife's Panasonic is set up this way, 130mm rear wheel with 7speed cassette and suntour indexed down tube shifters. Works like it was designed to be that way. I used Sugino cranks (the ones Velo Orange sells) a 50/34 chainring set.
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There's too many variables to predict the outcome of such a setup. Minute differences in chainstay angles, brazing of drop-outs to chainstays, drop-out type, hub spacers, cassette lock rings, original spacing and whether it has been set, etc.
That said, I have a 1985 Look 753 frame that, without cold setting, seems made for Campy 10 speed with an 11T small cog. A Merckx frame of the same vintage is maxed out by Campy 8 speed with a 12T cog.
That said, I have a 1985 Look 753 frame that, without cold setting, seems made for Campy 10 speed with an 11T small cog. A Merckx frame of the same vintage is maxed out by Campy 8 speed with a 12T cog.
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Thanks for the replies guys.. Im running an ultegra compact with a 9 speed cassette. It has not been cold set and is 126. Not sure if this is worth mentioning...the cassette is on a set of mavics. IIRC I needed to put a spacer on before i mounted the cassette to take up the play.
Related question. If a 10 spped cassette has a shorter stack, it seems that it could be moved closer to spokes to avoid chain rub??? will i need a spacer as well?
Related question. If a 10 spped cassette has a shorter stack, it seems that it could be moved closer to spokes to avoid chain rub??? will i need a spacer as well?
#12
My max speed on 50/12 is 45 mph, and it's not too tough at all to reach speeds in the upper 30's on descents. Depends who you ride with I guess, and of course how serious your group is.
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+1 Agree, be prepared to do a lot more shifting on the front derailleur.
Lets see, in the keeper fleet right now, I have three compact crank road bikes (84 Lotus, 87 Schwinn Prologue, 95 Fuji), one standard double road bike (03 Colnago), one triple crankset touring bike (00 Trek), and one triple MTB (92 Trek).
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At 45mph, or long before, I'm not pedaling anymore but merely taking advantage of gravity on the real steep, straight stuff. Gearing becomes inconsequential, for me at least.
What I mean about getting dropped is in the ~30mph range where spinning out is a real factor in keeping up. 5-10 miles of, say 6% grade will make you curse that compact crank pared with a 12T cog if the rest of the group ride in 53-11.
But these musings of mine are esoteric circumstances of little real life value, and only hurts the ego should they arise, so all's good.
What I mean about getting dropped is in the ~30mph range where spinning out is a real factor in keeping up. 5-10 miles of, say 6% grade will make you curse that compact crank pared with a 12T cog if the rest of the group ride in 53-11.
But these musings of mine are esoteric circumstances of little real life value, and only hurts the ego should they arise, so all's good.
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I'm running a 10 speed 11-25 cassette on a modern 130mm Dura Ace hub on a 1987 Trek 400 Elance. No issues.
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Mines not really a "compact", but I'm running 47-41 with 13-23 on my early 1980s Ciocc. Living as I do in south Louisiana where the steepest climbs are freeway overpasses, I've no need for any lower or higher gearing.
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