Next Question: Keep Which Bike--Batavus Champion or Fuji Gran Tourer?
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Next Question: Keep Which Bike--Batavus Champion or Fuji Gran Tourer?
Thanks so much for your help! Lately, I have been obessed with vintage bikes but I have just don't have the space or money. I have three mountain bikes, one cyclocross bike, and three vintage bikes (Peugoet, Fuji Gran Tourer, and an unknown Japanese bike). Now that I have added the Batavus, I have too many. (By the way, did I mention that my four children and wife all have multiple bikes in our garage).
I intend to keep the mountain and cyclocross bikes. Also, I completely enjoy my Peogeot and Mystery Bike.
For me, the choice is between the Fuji Gran Tourer and Batavus Champion. Both seem to be of similiar weight and quality. I have my thoughts, but what are yours? If you were me, which one would you eliminate? (The Batavus is a recent purchase and has not be restored--it is a complete bike--the wheels are not pictured.)
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I intend to keep the mountain and cyclocross bikes. Also, I completely enjoy my Peogeot and Mystery Bike.
For me, the choice is between the Fuji Gran Tourer and Batavus Champion. Both seem to be of similiar weight and quality. I have my thoughts, but what are yours? If you were me, which one would you eliminate? (The Batavus is a recent purchase and has not be restored--it is a complete bike--the wheels are not pictured.)
(Sorry, I cannot respond to PM's. I do not have enough posts.)

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Ride both and see which one feels better to you, ignore everything else if you can and judge only by the ride quality. If they both have the same wheel size and gear count then use the same wheels so that variable doesn't skew the results.
But if it were me I'd keep the Batavus and send the Fuji on it's way, unless the Fuji ride quality felt better to me. And if both felt good then one of the MTB's would be going.
And I've got an empty hook in the basement in case you need a space to store that Batavus while you decide, and you can take a looooooooong time deciding as long as I get to ride it while you ponder.
But if it were me I'd keep the Batavus and send the Fuji on it's way, unless the Fuji ride quality felt better to me. And if both felt good then one of the MTB's would be going.
And I've got an empty hook in the basement in case you need a space to store that Batavus while you decide, and you can take a looooooooong time deciding as long as I get to ride it while you ponder.
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Okay, first the voice of reason. They are different sizes, and also pretty different bikes. The Batavus is better suited to an aggressive posture, the Fuji probably more comfortable and a little slower. So... which is more important to you?
Ignoring all reason, however, I say lose the Fuji. That Batavus looks totally cool.
Ignoring all reason, however, I say lose the Fuji. That Batavus looks totally cool.
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UJB Fuji is a JRA bike , Batavus is a Netherlands based company (it looks racier)
FWIW, Batavia is what they called part of the Dutch east Indies Islands,
back in the era of Sail , Spice trade, around south Africa in pretty small wooden boats..
Now Indonesia .
FWIW, Batavia is what they called part of the Dutch east Indies Islands,
back in the era of Sail , Spice trade, around south Africa in pretty small wooden boats..
Now Indonesia .
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Well, yes... but perhaps more to the point... as a graduate of a certain university in the town of Lugdunum Batavorum (as it is called in neo-Latin) I feel compelled to mention that in the first century A. D. the Batavi were a Germanic tribe living in the area that later became Holland, and in neo-Latin Batavia means "Holland." So Batavus would be neo-Latin for "Dutchman."
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Is that the mysterious Reynolds 453 tubing sticker on the Batavus? If so, its a pretty decent and versatile frame. I cannot imagine getting rid of either one of them. I think the Fuji will only go up in value. Of course, subscribing to the vintage bike buy and hold philosophy will eventually exhaust your garage, attic and crawl space storage capacity.
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I think both bikes are great, but one sadly has to go. As it stands, I still have another Fuji frame hanging in my garage that I have not mentioned. Your help has been greatly appreciated.
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The Fuji is very close to entry level, while the Batavus is something pretty decent. No brainer IMHO.
You did a great job on the Fuji rebuild. I would be proud of it for sure. And it should sell quickly.
You did a great job on the Fuji rebuild. I would be proud of it for sure. And it should sell quickly.
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I know the Fuji must go. I know people who have Fujis, I don't know anyone who has Batavus. However, the fuji was my first rebuild that I completed. Although I would like to keep both, I must relunctantly sell the Fuji.
Thanks to everyone for their kindness.
Thanks to everyone for their kindness.






