When emotion gets in the way of reason...
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When emotion gets in the way of reason...
This auction
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
was at $91 yesterday, is now, with two plus hours left already about $800 overpriced.
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
was at $91 yesterday, is now, with two plus hours left already about $800 overpriced.
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Bikes: 1986 Alan Record Carbonio, 1985 Vitus Plus Carbone 7, 1984 Peugeot PSV, 1972 Line Seeker, 1986(est.) Medici Aerodynamic (Project), 1985(est.) Peugeot PY10FC
At that price it should at least be perfect, NOS, MIB,...etc...., but with that rust on the top tube and under the fork crown, it's way way overpriced IMO.
I dunno, In these days where many cyclists buy new bikes at $3K and up without flinching, maybe we C&Vers just lost touch with where the value of bikes are now with people??
Chombi
I dunno, In these days where many cyclists buy new bikes at $3K and up without flinching, maybe we C&Vers just lost touch with where the value of bikes are now with people??
Chombi
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Bikes: 1977 Bridgestone Kabuki Super Speed; 1979 Raleigh Professional; 1983 Raleigh Rapide mixte; 1974 Peugeot UO-8; 1993 Univega Activa Trail; 1972 Raleigh Sports; 1967 Phillips; 1981 Schwinn World Tourist; 1976 Schwinn LeTour mixte; 1964 Western Flyer
I'd pay that for a Herse with the original shifters/derailers...
#8
Damn....
I've got a near-perfect 60x58cm De Rosa frame set that I'll sell for 1200 even, Campy headset included. Maybe I ought get it up there while the iron is hot!
I've got a near-perfect 60x58cm De Rosa frame set that I'll sell for 1200 even, Campy headset included. Maybe I ought get it up there while the iron is hot!
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#10
Well I thought my reason had left me when I paid ~1K for my '85 professional, but I see someone out there got more carried away than me.
Complete bike w/ campy SR, no rust or other issues.
Yes, I've fixed the cable routing!
Complete bike w/ campy SR, no rust or other issues.
Yes, I've fixed the cable routing!
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1989 Schwinn Paramount OS
1980 Mclean/Silk Hope Sport Touring
1983 Bianchi pista
1976 Fuji Feather track
1979 raleigh track
"I've consulted my sources and I'm pretty sure your derailleur does not exist"
1989 Schwinn Paramount OS
1980 Mclean/Silk Hope Sport Touring
1983 Bianchi pista
1976 Fuji Feather track
1979 raleigh track
"I've consulted my sources and I'm pretty sure your derailleur does not exist"
#11
don't TAZE me, bro!!!
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Bikes: One of them home-made fixed gear road bike conversions.. with props to JB Weld and Red Loctite!
I say it depends on the bidder.. I know that I recently paid double the value for a frame I had been searching for.. it wasn't in the best of conditions, but I knew that I would be quite hard pressed to find one again in the exact size I needed much less in better condition.
I also didn't want to have any regrets later on. I can always make more money, but how easy would it be to find that holy grail frame again?
I also didn't want to have any regrets later on. I can always make more money, but how easy would it be to find that holy grail frame again?
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It IS worth what someone (or more) will pay for it, but there have been 83ish Merckx going for $400-600. I paid $450 for a 84/85 with number holder. The flat crown all chrome fork is nice, but the chrome is going, going, gone on this one.
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Nice bike, but not an early 80's Merckx. I have an '85, so does my wife and so does BBM. Not the same as an early, flat crown, over the BB routed Merckx.
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No, not the same at all. I've seen ~'85s w/ both flat or sloped fork crowns, and w/ new and old merckx font styles. I didn't intend to submit mine as an early merckx, just put it up for reference, and an excuse to repost a pic of it!
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1989 Schwinn Paramount OS
1980 Mclean/Silk Hope Sport Touring
1983 Bianchi pista
1976 Fuji Feather track
1979 raleigh track
"I've consulted my sources and I'm pretty sure your derailleur does not exist"
1989 Schwinn Paramount OS
1980 Mclean/Silk Hope Sport Touring
1983 Bianchi pista
1976 Fuji Feather track
1979 raleigh track
"I've consulted my sources and I'm pretty sure your derailleur does not exist"
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From: Chattanooga
Bikes: '93 Bridgestone RB-1, '91 Specialized Allez Epic, '85 Raleigh Team Pro, '78 Andre Bertin, early '90s F. Moser Leader AX , '85 Centurion Equipe, '98 Litespeed Tuscany, '89 Klein Quantum, '80 Nishiki Superbe, '83 Peckham, '84 Fuji Opus III
I'll take a Schwinn Circuit and the difference in cash.
Lotsa money in a NAME. Crazy stuff.
Lotsa money in a NAME. Crazy stuff.
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schwinn circuits raced in the tour?
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1989 Schwinn Paramount OS
1980 Mclean/Silk Hope Sport Touring
1983 Bianchi pista
1976 Fuji Feather track
1979 raleigh track
"I've consulted my sources and I'm pretty sure your derailleur does not exist"
1989 Schwinn Paramount OS
1980 Mclean/Silk Hope Sport Touring
1983 Bianchi pista
1976 Fuji Feather track
1979 raleigh track
"I've consulted my sources and I'm pretty sure your derailleur does not exist"
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I can't read ebay as well anymore.
FWIW The De Rosa market is fine here in the Twin Cities.
My son sold his Professional on Saturday to a friend of mine.
I sold the doppelganger to my wife's Primato as well. Not an EL-OS framed Primato, so life goes on.
I have visitation rights to both of these bikes.
In addition, I sold a super nice EM Corsa Extra 7-11 Replica frameset to a forum member on RBR that has asked me to keep my big mouth shut.
None of these were ebay sales, cause I just don't have the energy to deal with it at the moment.
As for the ebay Merckx, it has some unique features that make it a little more desirable.
A person has to decide what those features are worth, and to some folks, it's worth a lot of moola.
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I'm not putting down the Panasonic built Schwinn, I've had them and they are nice bikes, but hardly in the same league as the bike in question.
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You are dead wrong.
These are fabulous, worthy bikes.
After putting on close to 400 miles in the last three weeks on my EM Century, the love affair is still there.
Have you ridden a Merckx Leader? Incredible frameset in my opinion.
Nothing wrong with a Circuit mind you. They ride well.
They just aren't how I choose to use my saddle time.
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For the money, I would rather go for this one.
No chrome fork, but you get a little chrome on the drive side stay.
https://cgi.ebay.com/Eddy-Merckx-Prof...item2eafa53a64
-Jake
No chrome fork, but you get a little chrome on the drive side stay.
https://cgi.ebay.com/Eddy-Merckx-Prof...item2eafa53a64
-Jake
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For the money, I would rather go for this one.
No chrome fork, but you get a little chrome on the drive side stay.
https://cgi.ebay.com/Eddy-Merckx-Prof...item2eafa53a64
-Jake
No chrome fork, but you get a little chrome on the drive side stay.
https://cgi.ebay.com/Eddy-Merckx-Prof...item2eafa53a64
-Jake
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From: Chattanooga
Bikes: '93 Bridgestone RB-1, '91 Specialized Allez Epic, '85 Raleigh Team Pro, '78 Andre Bertin, early '90s F. Moser Leader AX , '85 Centurion Equipe, '98 Litespeed Tuscany, '89 Klein Quantum, '80 Nishiki Superbe, '83 Peckham, '84 Fuji Opus III
"In the same league"....... what does that mean? "On par" what does that mean?
Git it right OFG, the Circuit is not a Japanese bike.
Git it right OFG, the Circuit is not a Japanese bike.
So, you are saying that a factory built Schwinn from Japan is on a par with an early Merckx? I think Eddy had 6 builders at that time, and he and Ugo De Rosa supervised the operation.
I'm not putting down the Panasonic built Schwinn, I've had them and they are nice bikes, but hardly in the same league as the bike in question.
I'm not putting down the Panasonic built Schwinn, I've had them and they are nice bikes, but hardly in the same league as the bike in question.
Last edited by afilado; 09-20-10 at 08:17 PM.






