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gaucho777 09-24-10 02:38 PM

I passed a beauty on the street...
 
Yes, I do mean a bike. A lovely, well-maintained Motobecane, nicely appointed with wood basket, twine around the grips, detailed lugs and sharp looking fenders. :thumb: Fess up if it's yours!

http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/a...0/IMG_0990.jpg

http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/a...0/IMG_0991.jpg

http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/a...0/IMG_0994.jpg

http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/a...0/IMG_0992.jpg

http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/a...0/IMG_0993.jpg

( I recall there was a recent "randomly seen bikes" thread. I would have posted these photos there, but I wasn't able to find that thread.)

Roger M 09-24-10 03:15 PM

That is a great looking bike. I have thought about building some sort of box/basket, and that one looks great. i wonder if there are any dedicated threads for box/basket design and building?

nlerner 09-24-10 03:52 PM

Nice Moto, but that twine look just isn't working for me. Looks like one of my kid's summer camp projects.

Neal

Chombi 09-24-10 03:54 PM

Uhhmmmm.....not getting what the twine on the handlebar's all about........what's it for and did they really do that stuff in the past??
I would think they would wrap more of the bar if they did.......Otherwise I see Robinson Crusoe/Giligan's Island style there and not C&V.
Most likely I just don't know what I'm talking about......cause I only go back to the 80's with my biking....:D

Chombi

gaucho777 09-24-10 04:16 PM

Maybe the owner went a little too far with the twine, but I kind of like it. I've seen it used at the end of handlebar wraps in place of tape. Perhaps, in this case, it keeps the ends of the grips from buckling up, or maybe the owner just wants to build up some callouses. ;)

4Rings6Stars 09-24-10 04:17 PM

+1. I think the twine is too much and pretty ugly but LOVE the basket. I want to build something similar for my girlfriend's city bike to attach to the Blackburn rear rack on there.

FlatTop 09-24-10 04:17 PM

I'd hate to see that top tube get scraped by the steel angle the bike is locked to. The paint is quite nice, worth some padding.
The twine is a whimsical hobbit-like touch, I guess. An old GF of mine had her car's license plates tied on with twine. Whimsy is a quality I never get enough of in day-to-day life.

bigbossman 09-24-10 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by FlatTop (Post 11519536)
I'd hate to see that top tube get scraped by the steel angle the bike is locked to.....

Take a closer look - it is a square post with rounded corners. Good point, though - if it were mine I'd be more careful.

Grand Bois 09-24-10 04:56 PM

The shift cables run through slots in the grips. Wrapping with twine keeps the cables from pulling out of the slots. It's a Rivendell idea, very poorly executed. Rivendell sells Portuguese tree cork grips that are pre-slotted for the housings and the twine. They tried to sell them to me when I picked up my Albatross bars, but I told them that it was just too "Rivendell" for me.. Besides, I had my own idea and it worked out really well.

Twine reminds me of macrame and I saw enough of that in the seventies to last a lifetime.

http://inlinethumb12.webshots.com/66...600x600Q85.jpg

I plan to be in Berkeley on Sunday. I'm going to fly kites at the Marina if there's any wind.

fuzz2050 09-24-10 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by gaucho777 (Post 11519531)
Maybe the owner went a little too far with the twine, but I kind of like it. I've seen it used at the end of handlebar wraps in place of tape. Perhaps, in this case, it keeps the ends of the grips from buckling up, or maybe the owner just wants to build up some callouses. ;)

I've twinned handlebar tape before. It was on a bike that got left outside in the sun a lot. Apparently the sun around here gets so bad it will melt the adhesive right off tape...

southpawboston 09-24-10 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by Grand Bois (Post 11519691)
The shift cables run through slots in the grips. Wrapping with twine keeps the cables from pulling out of the slots. It's a Rivendell idea, very poorly executed. Rivendell sells Portuguese tree cork grips that are pre-slotted for the housings and the twine. They tried to sell them to me when I picked up my Albatross bars, but I told them that it was just too "Rivendell" for me.. Besides, I had my own idea and it worked out really well.

Twine reminds me of macrame and I saw enough of that in the seventies to last a lifetime.

http://inlinethumb12.webshots.com/66...600x600Q85.jpg

nice! are those the VO city brake levers on your albatross bars?

here's how i devised a cable+grip setup on my albatross bars, judiciously using twine to secure the cables and cork tape:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4112/...ae8a501cfb.jpg

Chris_in_Miami 09-24-10 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by gaucho777 (Post 11519181)
( I recall there was a recent "randomly seen bikes" thread. I would have posted these photos there, but I wasn't able to find that thread.)

That would be the "seen in passing" thread, I struggled to find it a while back also...


Originally Posted by Grand Bois (Post 11519691)

Gorgeous! I don't think I've seen that one before.


Originally Posted by southpawboston (Post 11520105)

Beautiful details as always! :thumb:

snarkypup 09-24-10 09:38 PM

I have the Rivendell Portuguese cork grips (the ones without the holes), and they are stunningly beautiful. Unfortunately, I find them too hard, and may end up wrapping them with leather grip tape.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4092/...81853dbcfb.jpg
newgrips by snarkypup, on Flickr

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4129/...650ec6ea62.jpg
glamorshotnew2 by snarkypup, on Flickr

ColonelJLloyd 09-24-10 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by southpawboston (Post 11520105)
nice! are those the VO city brake levers on your albatross bars?

here's how i devised a cable+grip setup on my albatross bars, judiciously using twine to secure the cables and cork tape:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4112/...ae8a501cfb.jpg

Southpaw,
I'm doing the same thing to my Raleigh Sports this weekend, but rather with that sew on elkhide over cloth. I've never seen black fake-cork wrap. I may try that on a drop bar; looks good. That's a classy rig, man.

Grand Bois 09-24-10 11:18 PM

[QUOTE=southpawboston;11520105]nice! are those the VO city brake levers on your albatross bars?QUOTE]

Yes they are. They're a bit rough, so I plan to pull them off and reshape/smooth and then polish them them this weekend. I think I'll also make them non-CPSC compliant eye stabbers while I'm at it. I'll post pictures.

Grand Bois 09-24-10 11:29 PM


Originally Posted by snarkypup (Post 11520852)
I have the Rivendell Portuguese cork grips (the ones without the holes), and they are stunningly beautiful. Unfortunately, I find them too hard, and may end up wrapping them with leather grip tape.

I have those on my "shopping bike", but I used amber shellac. I can see that you used clear. They feel good to me , but I haven't taken any long rides. They feel like my vintage fishing rods and that's a good thing.

http://inlinethumb62.webshots.com/39...600x600Q85.jpg

southpawboston 09-25-10 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd (Post 11520905)
Southpaw,
I'm doing the same thing to my Raleigh Sports this weekend, but rather with that sew on elkhide over cloth. I've never seen black fake-cork wrap. I may try that on a drop bar; looks good. That's a classy rig, man.

heh, yeah, that's generic black cork tape from nashbar... i stocked up when it was on sale for like $5.

southpawboston 09-25-10 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by Grand Bois (Post 11521125)
I have those on my "shopping bike", but I used amber shellac. I can see that you used clear. They feel good to me , but I haven't taken any long rides. They feel like my vintage fishing rods and that's a good thing.

http://inlinethumb62.webshots.com/39...600x600Q85.jpg

wow, that bike looks great, GB...

Roll-Monroe-Co 09-25-10 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by southpawboston (Post 11520105)

Wow! Creative and nice looking! That's not something I would have imagined, but it looks quite elegant.

Edit:

OK. This makes me think of a question. I like the idea of long-reach swept back bars for getting upright on a city bike.

However, I frequently see albatross and similar bars combined with a long forward-extension stem--the combination of which puts your hands right about where they would be with some north road or three-speed bars and a short extension stem.

In other words, you appear to be getting the same grip positioning, only with more metal, and therefore, weight. What is the advantage of the setup here? A little bit more vibration damping for the hands? It looks beautiful, but I don't understand the function.

fuzz2050 09-25-10 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by Roll-Monroe-Co (Post 11522334)
Wow! Creative and nice looking! That's not something I would have imagined, but it looks quite elegant.

Edit:

OK. This makes me think of a question. I like the idea of long-reach swept back bars for getting upright on a city bike.

However, I frequently see albatross and similar bars combined with a long forward-extension stem--the combination of which puts your hands right about where they would be with some north road or three-speed bars and a short extension stem.

In other words, you appear to be getting the same grip positioning, only with more metal, and therefore, weight. What is the advantage of the setup here? A little bit more vibration damping for the hands? It looks beautiful, but I don't understand the function.

While they may be similar in many ways, albatross style bars and North Road style bars are actually different in substantial ways. Albatross style bars have the grips almost parallel to the top tube, while North Road style bars have a significant angle to them. They're different bars, it makes sense they would be set up differently.

And for what it's worth, I always set up my North Road bars with the longest stem I can, otherwise the cockpit feels really cramped.

mandrake 09-25-10 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 11519448)
Nice Moto, but that twine look just isn't working for me. Looks like one of my kid's summer camp projects.

Neal

I like twine usually, but just to finish the bar tape. This person took it too far for me. I like a thinner gauge of twine also. Looks cluttered, I like a cleaner look.

Grand Bois 09-25-10 05:39 PM

The grip area of the Albatross bars is very long. Since I wanted to use a Pivo stem that did not have a long reach, I shortened the bars by 1 1/2" . That's when I found out that they're only thin walled for the first two inches and my bar end shifters wouldn't fit, but that's another thread.


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