Craigslist headaches
#101
Count Orlok Member

Joined: May 2009
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From: St. Paul, MN
Bikes: Raleigh Sports, Raleigh Twenty, Raleigh Wyoming, Raleigh DL1, Schwinn Winter Bike
Happens to my wife and me...I've since fixed up two more for friends and relatives, and now people are asking them where they got that cool bike, and they call me...
#102
aka Tom Reingold




Joined: Jan 2009
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From: New York, NY, and High Falls, NY, USA
Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem
To everything, there is a season.
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Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments. Elizabeth West, US author
Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
#104
They're automated messages but a real person may respond if you reply, it's usually fairly obvious that they're trying to rip you off...
#105
Those are usually scammers. You can usually spot them by their gmail address and the fact that they never directly mention what you're selling in their initial message ("the item" rather than "your Schwinn," etc.)
They're automated messages but a real person may respond if you reply, it's usually fairly obvious that they're trying to rip you off...
They're automated messages but a real person may respond if you reply, it's usually fairly obvious that they're trying to rip you off...
#106
2k miles from the midwest
Joined: Feb 2005
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From: Washington
Bikes: ~'75 Colin Laing, '80s Schwinn SuperSport 650b, ex-Backroads ti project...
Ugh, I've just started selling on CL again after a year or two break. The first three were quick, smooth transactions. Now I'm trying to sell a nice 531 framed bike at a VERY competitive price point, I've had 12 responders. Two were obvious culls, 6 of them started dialogs wanting more info. The one last night was the last straw. We conversed all afternoon, I sent him a breakdown of all the parts and 6 more pictures. Took measurements of everything. Then I get an email asking if he could see it tonight instead of the weekend. Ok, all well and good. I get up to go to the bathroom and when I get back there are two more messages asking if he could get it tonight. I told him to tell me when he expected to be in town and never heard anything back. If this keeps past this weekend, I"m going to throw it in the rafters until the bike swap this spring.
#107
Larger Chainring
Joined: Jul 2009
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From: Corvallis, Oregon
Bikes: 1988 Schwinn Circuit. Bike-Boom-Puegeot. First "real bike" Trek 720 Hybrid in gross disrepair.
I know its not breaking news but
CRAIGSLIST,
Saw an ad pop up on my Craigslist at about 9pm for a bike. Crappy cell phone non-driveside picture. All I could see was "Panasonic" and the tiny red square of what appeared to be a Tange 2 sticker. No email left, only a phone number. As it was late, I texted, hoping it was a cell-phone. She responded back almost immediately that "someone is coming to look at it at 4, but if you want the bike, I'll be here until 10 tomorrow." By the time I got there (1.5 hours after leaving my house) I got there, only to find it had been sold.
Perhaps my line-jumping screwed me, but man. It was my size too.
CRAIGSLIST,
Saw an ad pop up on my Craigslist at about 9pm for a bike. Crappy cell phone non-driveside picture. All I could see was "Panasonic" and the tiny red square of what appeared to be a Tange 2 sticker. No email left, only a phone number. As it was late, I texted, hoping it was a cell-phone. She responded back almost immediately that "someone is coming to look at it at 4, but if you want the bike, I'll be here until 10 tomorrow." By the time I got there (1.5 hours after leaving my house) I got there, only to find it had been sold.
Perhaps my line-jumping screwed me, but man. It was my size too.
#108
#109
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Joined: Dec 2005
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From: Ashland, VA
Bikes: The keepers: 1969 Magneet Sprint, 1971 Gitane Tour de France, 1973 Raleigh Twenty, 3 - 1986 Rossins.
And yet...and yet. Sometimes there are nice people out there too.
Found a bike I wanted out of state (WAY out of state), sent the guy an e-mail, called a friend who agreed to go by, pay the asking price in cash and ship it to me. Called the guy- who hadn't seen my e-mail yet- explained that I wasn't some scammer, and he said "Hey, no problem. If you're willing to call me and explain all this stuff YOU MUST BE MEANT TO BUY THIS BIKE." I swear, that's exactly what he said.
So...sometimes the person on the other end of a CL sale is actually a thinking, literate, friendly person who's just trying to sell a nice bike at a reasonable price.
Not always, but sometimes.
Found a bike I wanted out of state (WAY out of state), sent the guy an e-mail, called a friend who agreed to go by, pay the asking price in cash and ship it to me. Called the guy- who hadn't seen my e-mail yet- explained that I wasn't some scammer, and he said "Hey, no problem. If you're willing to call me and explain all this stuff YOU MUST BE MEANT TO BUY THIS BIKE." I swear, that's exactly what he said.
So...sometimes the person on the other end of a CL sale is actually a thinking, literate, friendly person who's just trying to sell a nice bike at a reasonable price.
Not always, but sometimes.
I owe him some pictures once the bike is done. Total debt.
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Syke
No one in this world, so far as I know and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.
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#111
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Joined: Dec 2005
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From: Ashland, VA
Bikes: The keepers: 1969 Magneet Sprint, 1971 Gitane Tour de France, 1973 Raleigh Twenty, 3 - 1986 Rossins.
Now that I've done the nice warm-fuzzy-for-my-year-story, back to reality:
I listed two bikes on the Richmond Craigslist this morning, an '80 Schwinn World Sport and a '99 Nishiki Manitoba mtb. First call I get is . . . . . . . . . a guy who, since I'm fixing up and selling an older mtb, wants to sell me a suspension fork he's got. No, I'm not interested, I've got four others hanging on the wall waiting for future frames (I don't do a lot of mtb's). OK, if I was interested in such a fork, what would I expect to pay for it. I told him I'd picked up all four in my inventory, one having never seen a frame, for $30.00 total.
From the silence at the other end, it was obvious I wasn't coming up with anything near the figure he was hoping for.
I listed two bikes on the Richmond Craigslist this morning, an '80 Schwinn World Sport and a '99 Nishiki Manitoba mtb. First call I get is . . . . . . . . . a guy who, since I'm fixing up and selling an older mtb, wants to sell me a suspension fork he's got. No, I'm not interested, I've got four others hanging on the wall waiting for future frames (I don't do a lot of mtb's). OK, if I was interested in such a fork, what would I expect to pay for it. I told him I'd picked up all four in my inventory, one having never seen a frame, for $30.00 total.
From the silence at the other end, it was obvious I wasn't coming up with anything near the figure he was hoping for.
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No one in this world, so far as I know and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.
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Syke
No one in this world, so far as I know and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.
H.L. Mencken, (1926)
#113
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OK, if I was interested in such a fork, what would I expect to pay for it. I told him I'd picked up all four in my inventory, one having never seen a frame, for $30.00 total.
From the silence at the other end, it was obvious I wasn't coming up with anything near the figure he was hoping for.
From the silence at the other end, it was obvious I wasn't coming up with anything near the figure he was hoping for.
Nice job of shutting him up - I don't appriciate amateur C-list phone solicitors.
-Kurt
#114
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I've had all kinds of ups and downs with CL. Mostly ups though
I was selling a mid-2000s Trek 820 earlier this summer. It needed some work - new tires and cables, mostly. Clearly listed that in the ad with pics and all. I had 3 people look at it and not actually read the ad and got mad at me for deceiving them. Finally got rid of it for $10 under my asking price two weeks later.
There was a Giant OCR3 being sold for $300 at the beginning of summer. One of the best deals I saw all year in Chicago. Jumped on it a minute after it was posted and I was first in line. It was mid afternoon, so I asked about being able to look at it that night. He said he was busy but the next morning would work. Get an email from him at 10pm saying he sold it to someone who could come that night.
The better ones were a Saris Bones 3 for $25 that was well worth the 3 hour round-trip drive on a rainy Saturday Afternoon, and a 1986 Fuji Del Ray from a local person for $50. She was so happy it was going to be used (it was her mothers bike). Great condition too. Original components, next to no rust on the steel frame. Its a great campus commuter. Too old for someone to steal but nice enough to ride around and mess with the DT shifters.
I was selling a mid-2000s Trek 820 earlier this summer. It needed some work - new tires and cables, mostly. Clearly listed that in the ad with pics and all. I had 3 people look at it and not actually read the ad and got mad at me for deceiving them. Finally got rid of it for $10 under my asking price two weeks later.
There was a Giant OCR3 being sold for $300 at the beginning of summer. One of the best deals I saw all year in Chicago. Jumped on it a minute after it was posted and I was first in line. It was mid afternoon, so I asked about being able to look at it that night. He said he was busy but the next morning would work. Get an email from him at 10pm saying he sold it to someone who could come that night.
The better ones were a Saris Bones 3 for $25 that was well worth the 3 hour round-trip drive on a rainy Saturday Afternoon, and a 1986 Fuji Del Ray from a local person for $50. She was so happy it was going to be used (it was her mothers bike). Great condition too. Original components, next to no rust on the steel frame. Its a great campus commuter. Too old for someone to steal but nice enough to ride around and mess with the DT shifters.
#115
Vello Kombi, baby

Joined: Dec 2002
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From: Je suis ici
Bikes: 1973 Eisentraut; 1970s Richard Sachs; 1978 Alfio Bonnano; 1967 Peugeot PX10
In general, I've had a good time on CL.
My craziest experience was a couple of years ago. I had been looking for a bike for my GF, and found a 48cm celeste, italian made Bianchi at a church yard sale for 25$. I thought it might fit her, but it didn't. This left me with a very nice, basically unridden Bianchi, and no bike for my GF.
Aha! I think, in a rare moment of inspiration-- I'll try to trade the cute little Bianchi for something a bit bigger, that'll solve all the problems. So I compose a nice little CL ad, explaining my situation and that I am looking for a trade, not a sale.
I get bombarded. I think the total was around 50+ emails and calls. I get offered a Murray (not a Serotta one, either), a cheap Asian bianchi ( the girl wants both cash and my bike for hers, which is a far lesser bike), several sub 100 offers, and an insistent woman from 150 miles away who asks for a lot more photos (fine) and grouches about how she knows a lot about bike and I know very little.
Eventually, I relist the bike, this time with a 450$ price tag (or offer in trade). A woman drive from Roanoke that day (6 hr drive), and pays the full price, no questions asked.
The time I found a perfectly good Huffy (not a Serotta) in the trash and put it on CL for free was almost as crazy, too. Next time I'm charging five bucks for it, or a donation to Pen Pals (a local organization that has prisoners in the state pen train homeless dogs).
My craziest experience was a couple of years ago. I had been looking for a bike for my GF, and found a 48cm celeste, italian made Bianchi at a church yard sale for 25$. I thought it might fit her, but it didn't. This left me with a very nice, basically unridden Bianchi, and no bike for my GF.
Aha! I think, in a rare moment of inspiration-- I'll try to trade the cute little Bianchi for something a bit bigger, that'll solve all the problems. So I compose a nice little CL ad, explaining my situation and that I am looking for a trade, not a sale.
I get bombarded. I think the total was around 50+ emails and calls. I get offered a Murray (not a Serotta one, either), a cheap Asian bianchi ( the girl wants both cash and my bike for hers, which is a far lesser bike), several sub 100 offers, and an insistent woman from 150 miles away who asks for a lot more photos (fine) and grouches about how she knows a lot about bike and I know very little.
Eventually, I relist the bike, this time with a 450$ price tag (or offer in trade). A woman drive from Roanoke that day (6 hr drive), and pays the full price, no questions asked.
The time I found a perfectly good Huffy (not a Serotta) in the trash and put it on CL for free was almost as crazy, too. Next time I'm charging five bucks for it, or a donation to Pen Pals (a local organization that has prisoners in the state pen train homeless dogs).
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#116
Senior Member


Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,429
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From: Ashland, VA
Bikes: The keepers: 1969 Magneet Sprint, 1971 Gitane Tour de France, 1973 Raleigh Twenty, 3 - 1986 Rossins.
Another good CL day:
Had gotten one call yesterday on the Schwinn, said he was interested in coming out Saturday to see it. Terrific. He calls this morning, is out by 1300, with his college age son. Junior's the one looking for the bike, and they were spending the morning going down the CL ads they'd found. I was the fifth stop of the day. And the last one. Comment as he came back up the hill from the test ride, "This bike's feels a lot more solid than any of the other four." Paid the asking price of $125.00, no questions (didn't hurt that stop #4 was asking $140 for a Murray, #3 was a Raleigh that looked a lot better in the picture). Turned the kid on to Richmond Re-Cycle for spares, accessories, etc.
It's a nice warm feeling when a sale goes well.
Had gotten one call yesterday on the Schwinn, said he was interested in coming out Saturday to see it. Terrific. He calls this morning, is out by 1300, with his college age son. Junior's the one looking for the bike, and they were spending the morning going down the CL ads they'd found. I was the fifth stop of the day. And the last one. Comment as he came back up the hill from the test ride, "This bike's feels a lot more solid than any of the other four." Paid the asking price of $125.00, no questions (didn't hurt that stop #4 was asking $140 for a Murray, #3 was a Raleigh that looked a lot better in the picture). Turned the kid on to Richmond Re-Cycle for spares, accessories, etc.
It's a nice warm feeling when a sale goes well.
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Syke
No one in this world, so far as I know and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.
H.L. Mencken, (1926)
Syke
No one in this world, so far as I know and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.
H.L. Mencken, (1926)
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