For only a stem? Really?
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For only a stem? Really?
I admire classic constructeur bikes as much as the next guy, but $560 for a stem? I choose to believe someone bought this to complete an original Singer that was missing the stem. The yen to dollar exchange being what it is, though, it's probably on its way to Japan to sit in a display case.
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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I admire classic constructeur bikes as much as the next guy, but $560 for a stem? I choose to believe someone bought this to complete an original Singer that was missing the stem. The yen to dollar exchange being what it is, though, it's probably on its way to Japan to sit in a display case.
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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#7
I'm sure others can say the same about bike stuff that we all have splurged on on occasion.
I'm pretty sure this stem will be going on a bike where it fits well. What other stem would one use on, say, an Alex Singer?
And I checked out the pictures closely -- whether or not the stem has a light switch is undetermined (it's hidden obviously) but if it doesnt, the stem can easily be retrofitted to do so. You'd need this stem...or a custom to have this feature.
I'm pretty sure this stem will be going on a bike where it fits well. What other stem would one use on, say, an Alex Singer?
And I checked out the pictures closely -- whether or not the stem has a light switch is undetermined (it's hidden obviously) but if it doesnt, the stem can easily be retrofitted to do so. You'd need this stem...or a custom to have this feature.
#8
If I had a Singer that required that particular stem, I would happily pay $560.99 without blinking.
The additional value it would add to the bike is much more than that, imho. When you're playing around with a bike of that caliber, the devil is in the details...
The additional value it would add to the bike is much more than that, imho. When you're playing around with a bike of that caliber, the devil is in the details...
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A $560 stem is easier to store than a $560 bike you might not ever ride.
Also, some $560 bikes need things. Like a $560 stem, because the one that came with the bike is, like, totally wrong.
But I guess if I had $560 to spare, I'd buy a $250 bike that didn't need much, and spend the other $310 on cables, tires, and beer.
To each his own, I guess.
Also, some $560 bikes need things. Like a $560 stem, because the one that came with the bike is, like, totally wrong.
But I guess if I had $560 to spare, I'd buy a $250 bike that didn't need much, and spend the other $310 on cables, tires, and beer.
To each his own, I guess.
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I like your thinking.
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#11
A $560 stem is easier to store than a $560 bike you might not ever ride.
Also, some $560 bikes need things. Like a $560 stem, because the one that came with the bike is, like, totally wrong.
But I guess if I had $560 to spare, I'd buy a $250 bike that didn't need much, and spend the other $310 on cables, tires, and beer.
To each his own, I guess.
Also, some $560 bikes need things. Like a $560 stem, because the one that came with the bike is, like, totally wrong.
But I guess if I had $560 to spare, I'd buy a $250 bike that didn't need much, and spend the other $310 on cables, tires, and beer.
To each his own, I guess.
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It's all a personal thing and the final price for this stem does not neccessarily follow the logic of your typical C&V component for sale.
Sometimes when you feel like you just have to get something you just go and get it for as much as you can afford at that time. I'm sure that many of those bidders have also experienced the mistake of being reluctant when a similar opportunity presented itself and then never happened again for many years till now, like maybe another stem like this years ago......and they have been kicking themselves on the butt since then. Now they are trying not to do the same mistake again even if it take over 500 bucks to get it.....in short, the stem in that condition must be $500+ rare these days.
Ehhh......what's 500 bucks anyway. It's just the price of a kinda nice watch. Tha's what I told myself when I bought some personal "must have" expensive C&V components earlier this year.
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Sometimes when you feel like you just have to get something you just go and get it for as much as you can afford at that time. I'm sure that many of those bidders have also experienced the mistake of being reluctant when a similar opportunity presented itself and then never happened again for many years till now, like maybe another stem like this years ago......and they have been kicking themselves on the butt since then. Now they are trying not to do the same mistake again even if it take over 500 bucks to get it.....in short, the stem in that condition must be $500+ rare these days.
Ehhh......what's 500 bucks anyway. It's just the price of a kinda nice watch. Tha's what I told myself when I bought some personal "must have" expensive C&V components earlier this year.
Chombi
#15
Velo Orange has fillet brazed stems in the works, but they're not quite the same.
#16
Velo Orange has fillet brazed stems in the works, but they're not quite the same.
Electra has an AS-derived stem that looks similar to an original, although still on the "faux" side of things. Knock-off / just looks only / VO quality (probably made in the same factory, actually).
Jitensha Studio makes a custom stem that's on par with an Alex Singer. I believe Toei in Japan makes 'em, actually. They may or may not be only available to Ebisu or Toei owners. https://www.flickr.com/photos/william...ol-359434@N25/
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What I do not understand is the exchange in the Q&A section:
Q: Where did this come from/what bike?
A: My Alex Singer. I sold it three weeks ago on ebay. I am 6'2" and needed a longer stem. This is a 10 cm stem.
So, this guy put a replacement stem on his Singer and then sold the bike on ebay but kept the original stem? I don't see the listing for the bike on the completed listing search. Why not include the stem with the bike and keep it all intact/original? Apparently, because you can sell the stem for more $. I wonder if the guy that bought the bike had to shell out another $560 for the stem that should have been included with the original bike listing. I can only hope the stem which was sold with the Singer was similar to the original.
Q: Where did this come from/what bike?
A: My Alex Singer. I sold it three weeks ago on ebay. I am 6'2" and needed a longer stem. This is a 10 cm stem.
So, this guy put a replacement stem on his Singer and then sold the bike on ebay but kept the original stem? I don't see the listing for the bike on the completed listing search. Why not include the stem with the bike and keep it all intact/original? Apparently, because you can sell the stem for more $. I wonder if the guy that bought the bike had to shell out another $560 for the stem that should have been included with the original bike listing. I can only hope the stem which was sold with the Singer was similar to the original.
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What I do not understand is the exchange in the Q&A section:
Q: Where did this come from/what bike?
A: My Alex Singer. I sold it three weeks ago on ebay. I am 6'2" and needed a longer stem. This is a 10 cm stem.
So, this guy put a replacement stem on his Singer and then sold the bike on ebay but kept the original stem? I don't see the listing for the bike on the completed listing search. Why not include the stem with the bike and keep it all intact/original? Apparently, because you can sell the stem for more $. I wonder if the guy that bought the bike had to shell out another $560 for the stem that should have been included with the original bike listing. I can only hope the stem which was sold with the Singer was similar to the original.
Q: Where did this come from/what bike?
A: My Alex Singer. I sold it three weeks ago on ebay. I am 6'2" and needed a longer stem. This is a 10 cm stem.
So, this guy put a replacement stem on his Singer and then sold the bike on ebay but kept the original stem? I don't see the listing for the bike on the completed listing search. Why not include the stem with the bike and keep it all intact/original? Apparently, because you can sell the stem for more $. I wonder if the guy that bought the bike had to shell out another $560 for the stem that should have been included with the original bike listing. I can only hope the stem which was sold with the Singer was similar to the original.
#25
Seems like a bargain for a basically well cared for Singer. My size. Had I seen that auction it might have been mine now. The stem sale is sort a consolation for the seller, after that.




