Is that a reaL MERCKX on Ebay or a fraud???
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Is that a reaL MERCKX on Ebay or a fraud???
Just saw this on sf bay are cr. a guy was asking if the eddy merckx molteni replica on ebay was real. it sure looks bogus to me. its in Los Gatos california-which is pretty close to where i live. very strange looking braze ons. the seller has a history of the bike but it sure does not look like the real thing to me. anyone out there check this out and confirm? if it is a fraud, he should be reported. thanks. joe
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I've been following the auction for giggles. I actually believe the seller believes what he's saying about the bike. But the reality is, it is a nothing bike. And amazing it's been bid up to where it's at. Some very un-informed bidders out there! They are lucky it's not hit reserve, as that's a bullet dodged.
https://cgi.ebay.com/Genuine-Eddy-Mer...item3cb1a25d3b
https://cgi.ebay.com/Genuine-Eddy-Mer...item3cb1a25d3b
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looks like it is one of the lower end merckx branded bikes. While not one of these japanese made ones, it could be one of the 2 or 3 [ Falcon made them in the US & UK and Miyata made them in Japan.] other ones branded with his name. So probably legit. Though not worth what the seller wants for it. $600 and still not at the reserve. but what do I know?
https://prollyisnotprobably.com/2010/...mondays_48.php
https://prollyisnotprobably.com/2010/...mondays_48.php
Last edited by O Rly?; 10-18-10 at 06:20 PM.
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Didn't read the ad, but while it is not a genuine bike, wasn't there some gaspipe replicas made to cash in on the fame? Could this be one of those?
edit: beat to the punch by O Rly?.
edit: beat to the punch by O Rly?.
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From: Beautiful Long Beach California
Bikes: Eddy Merckx San Remo 76, Eddy Merckx San Remo 76 - Black Silver and Red, Eddy Merckx Sallanches 64 (2); Eddy Merckx MXL;
Maybe not a fraud but Merckx didn't start building bikes until 1980. There are several Merckx branded bikes built in the 70's by Kessels and Falcon.
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The thing to remember about 1970's Molteni Merckx bikes is they were ALL branded bikes. There were ones from great builders (De Rosa, Colnago, Kessels), mid-line production versions (Falcon 531), and bottom of the line junk (Falcon, Kessels, Japanese, etc.) They are all "genuine", and it's not fraud to sell a low-end version. This is a case where it's purely up to the buyer to know what they are buying. And obviously many of them do not.
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i was thinking that it was just a piece of junk-repainted-and decaled to look like a merckx but i can see now that it is a cheap line bike made back in the day to capitalize on the merckx phenom. i wouldnt pay 150.00 for it but maybe 100.00 just for the novelty. makes you wonder if thats why the price is as high as it is. maybe those are rare bikes. although not rideable as a nice road bike
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It is a genuine lower-than-mediocre mid-70s campus bike in Merckx livery. Funny thing is, the seller shows a photo of the genuine article, made by Colnago or DeRosa, that clearly shows the differences. Bidders are obviously clueless, unless they some sort of Merckx completists, collectors striving to acquire an example of every item that ever carried a Merckx logo.
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That looks like a Merckx Falcon to me. Those were horrible bikes -- I even hated the Campy Record equipped versions. Eddy Merckx sold his name to some people that didn't exactly use it to great advantage.
The only thing fake about it is the story.
The only thing fake about it is the story.
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who knows, there was an old low-end Atala or Bottecchia or the like that sold for $1200 sometime last year, that was silly too. Falcons were bad, but '70s low-end Italian bikes were worse.
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Or maybe somebody bought it just to hang as decoration in their Belgian sports hero themed bar as decoration. To us it's nuts, but in the grand scheme of spending a grand on crap it's really nothing.
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Maybe the winning bidder might consider getting this one too...
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEDWX:IT

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEDWX:IT
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From: Luxembourg, Luxembourg, Europe
Bikes: 69' Colnago, 74' DeRosa, 75' Masi Gran Criterium, 83' Tomas, 85' Daccordi Turbo, 90' Eddy Merckx 7/11, 92' Eddy Merckx Corsa Extra, 92' Basso Astra,
There are so many good offers on ebay. Even at a buy it now price. Why are people so f.. stupid and buy this ****? I would not even pay 100 euros for one of these bikes.
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Holy smokes! I have two Falcon Merckx bikes in the basement. Full double butted 531 frames, Brooks Pro Saddle, full Campy Nuevo Record kit and super low mile tubulars. I think I need to takes some pictures and get one of them listed ASAP. Both in excellent shape and well maintained.
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Maybe the winning bidder might consider getting this one too...
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEDWX:IT

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEDWX:IT
"with Simano Breaks, Suntaur Shifters - Made in Japan"
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