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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd
(Post 18642515)
Nitto will make a rack or handlebar for you to your specifications. I'm sure CAD files, etc are necessary. When they produce the item there is an agreement (I assume always, but not certain) that Nitto can market and sell the design as a Nitto product in addition to providing you with your designed product. I suspect the B136 is essentially the Grand Bois Randonneur bar with a 26mm clamp instead of 1".
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Looking carefuly at both the 136AA and the Grand Bois Randonneur, I don't think they are the same:
Nitto 136AA http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=512563 Grand Bois randonneur: http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=512564 the GB seems to flare up a lot more |
Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd
(Post 12952522)
Oh, man! That's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks Neal and LesterOfPuppets!
Now. . . which one do I want? B135 45cm http://img1.qbp.com/6SPsvm45/prodl/HB1021.jpg B132 44cm http://img1.qbp.com/6SPsvm45/prodl/HB1024.jpg Just for fun, here's the 44cm Noodle. B177 44cm http://img1.qbp.com/6SPsvm45/prodl/HB1026.jpg To my eyes, the B132 looks more like the traditional randonneur bends I've seen. I'm leaning toward that one. They cost more, so they're better, right? ;) |
Originally Posted by Charles Wahl
(Post 13900558)
When I Google "raundoneur" all the hits that result are for Nitto, Nitto B135, etc. If you've got one where it's spelled randonneur, then I guess they finally corrected that.
Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd
(Post 13901728)
Yeah, you're correct, Charles. I just confirmed that it is spelled "Raundoner" on my B132a.
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I got the Nitto 136AA bars. Will post some pictures once they are installed, as they are rare online...
They don't flare as much as the 135 and I also think they have a smaller upward curve. |
Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
(Post 18775467)
... now if only I'd thought to look I wouldn't have already bought the 132's just because they seemed like a deal, and instead would have known to get the GB-like 135's. :(
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FWIW, I tried the Compass Rando bar in 42mm width. Here is a pic of the bar:
[IMG]http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...psgjqu64pl.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...psocqswg8k.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...psnvmvxxgw.jpg[/IMG] I ended up not liking the up-sweep. The was no place on the flat section of the bar that was truly flat. My wrists were always at an angle. I know that is the idea but it did not work for me. These seem to be a bit more pronounced than the other types of Rando bars I tried. YMMV. |
Originally Posted by echo victor
(Post 18808294)
I'm interested to hear what it is that you expect to prefer about the 135 shape over the 132 shape.
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
(Post 18808586)
Less extension, drops with a longer flat section and more flare. Although not nearly quite as much as a Soma Junebug for instance. ThermionicScott had a spare pair of the Gerry Burgess bars lying around so I'll be using them.
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The box was here when we got back from the camping trip, I assume the handlebars are in it
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If they aren't, that'll make two of us that are surprised. :lol:
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Originally Posted by fender1
(Post 18808317)
FWIW, I tried the Compass Rando bar in 42mm width. Here is a pic of the bar:
[IMG]http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...psgjqu64pl.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...psocqswg8k.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...psnvmvxxgw.jpg[/IMG] I ended up not liking the up-sweep. The was no place on the flat section of the bar that was truly flat. My wrists were always at an angle. I know that is the idea but it did not work for me. These seem to be a bit more pronounced than the other types of Rando bars I tried. YMMV. I saw these and I thought they might work, but I need flat ramps like my Noodles. I'll just stick with those when my Rambouillet shows up next month. |
Originally Posted by gomango
(Post 18808798)
Good info. Thanks.
I saw these and I thought they might work, but I need flat ramps like my Noodles. I'll just stick with those when my Rambouillet shows up next month. |
Originally Posted by gomango
(Post 18808798)
Good info. Thanks.
I saw these and I thought they might work, but I need flat ramps like my Noodles. I'll just stick with those when my Rambouillet shows up next month. Assuming you know of them already, but having ridden them for 300mi over the last few weeks, ive decided im going to use them for any classic style bike i build up in the future. Slight flared drops, full C bend, and good flat ramps. |
Originally Posted by echo victor
(Post 18808294)
I'm interested to hear what it is that you expect to prefer about the 135 shape over the 132 shape.
135 had less reach. 135 has less drop. The drops on the 135 extend rearward farther than those on the 132. It's been noted (on this thread, iirc) that the ramps and drops are more nearly parallel on the 132. That's cool, but for me it isn't enough to trump the other benefits of the 135. Both the 132 and 135 have a nice flat ramp section behind the hoods that I find really comfortable, so much so that I have abandoned Cinelli bars altogether. |
Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
(Post 18808586)
Less extension, drops with a longer flat section and more flare. Although not nearly quite as much as a Soma Junebug for instance. ThermionicScott had a spare pair of the Gerry Burgess bars lying around so I'll be using them.
Anyway, I hope you like them as much as I do! |
I've enjoyed the b135 and decided to try the compass bars on my roubaix even though nitto makes the b135 in 31.8 now. I hope they work for me, I rarely use the tops of the bars.
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
(Post 18808586)
Less extension, drops with a longer flat section and more flare. Although not nearly quite as much as a Soma Junebug for instance. ThermionicScott had a spare pair of the Gerry Burgess bars lying around so I'll be using them.
Originally Posted by due ruote
(Post 18811100)
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It's been noted (on this thread, iirc) that the ramps and drops are more nearly parallel on the 132. That's cool, but for me it isn't enough to trump the other benefits of the 135. Both the 132 and 135 have a nice flat ramp section behind the hoods that I find really comfortable, so much so that I have abandoned Cinelli bars altogether. I actually quite like the SR Sakae "RANDNNER" bars (and the GB ones on my Raleigh Gran Sport). I think the 132 bars might be more similar to those old school ones. Too bad there's no easy way to compare these without buying one of each. :) |
Originally Posted by echo victor
(Post 18812022)
Good points about the reach up top and the extension on the drops.
I actually quite like the SR Sakae "RANDNNER" bars (and the GB ones on my Raleigh Gran Sport). I think the 132 bars might be more similar to those old school ones. Too bad there's no easy way to compare these without buying one of each. :) Gerry Burgess 1970's? https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7750/2...3fb7b782_m.jpghttps://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7459/2...e13a64c36b.jpg B135 45cm http://img1.qbp.com/6SPsvm45/prodl/HB1021.jpg B132a 44cm http://img1.qbp.com/6SPsvm45/prodl/HB1024.jpg https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7689/2...4dabfa83_z.jpgUntitled by Darth Lefty, on Flickr Here's the set I had on my Super Sport, with the tops nearly level https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5577/1...27143524_z.jpgUntitled by Darth Lefty, on Flickr |
Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
(Post 18812040)
@Metacortex might know if there were different models, he's the keeper of the FB flame...
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
(Post 18812040)
... Gerry Burgess ... (I've decided to stop writing "GB" to avoid confusion with Gilles Berthoud or Grand Bois.)
For fun, and to highlight the differences between the 135 and 132 for anyone wanting to see it really clearly (like me), I created overlays from the above Nitto photos (and made sure the clamp diameters in the photos are the same for both bars, thus ensuring that the dimensions compare accurately. 135 in red and 132 in blue (click to embiggen): http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=524811 http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=524812 |
Those are "neato" comparison pics, indeed. :D
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
(Post 18813847)
Those are "neato" comparison pics, indeed. :D
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As promised, the Nitto 136AA bars mounted. They feel a bit like a "diet" version of the 135AA -- the upsweep is not so pronounced and it doesn't fill the cup of your hand so much, has less flare and the drops extend less rearward.
26.0 Clamp, 40cm C-C and ~37cm C-C at the hoods. http://i.imgur.com/ZhXXNjw.jpg |
Originally Posted by mstateglfr
(Post 18809045)
VO Grand Cru Course.
Assuming you know of them already, but having ridden them for 300mi over the last few weeks, ive decided im going to use them for any classic style bike i build up in the future. Slight flared drops, full C bend, and good flat ramps. Appreciated. |
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