Show Your Moser!
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Show Your Moser!
I think the top of my wish list now. How about some fodder for the fantasy - bonus points for internal routing!
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From: Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada - burrrrr!
Bikes: 1958 Rabeneick 120D, 1968 Legnano Gran Premio, 196? Torpado Professional, 2000 Marinoni Piuma
The first really nice bicycle I built up was a Francesco Moser, built from an eighties something NOS Moser frame set. I spent a lot of money and sold the bike to cover my expenditures. I never even rode the bike. I do not like spending a bunch of money on an old bicycle.
Anyway, read about my Moser, if you are at all interested.
Anyway, read about my Moser, if you are at all interested.
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> show me your Moser
why, gladly!




I got this 1978 Francesco Moser San Cristobal frame in Austria and built it up as a fixed gear with blasphemously modern components. Originally it was a racing bike with tubulars, but it does fine with 700C wheels. For a racing bike, it is amazingly, even alarmingly comfortable. Eventually, the plan is to get another frame that I will build up as a fixed gear, and turn the Moser frame back into a geared racing bike (I have kept all the braze-ons intact of course). I am very happy with this frame; it is a keeper.
why, gladly!




I got this 1978 Francesco Moser San Cristobal frame in Austria and built it up as a fixed gear with blasphemously modern components. Originally it was a racing bike with tubulars, but it does fine with 700C wheels. For a racing bike, it is amazingly, even alarmingly comfortable. Eventually, the plan is to get another frame that I will build up as a fixed gear, and turn the Moser frame back into a geared racing bike (I have kept all the braze-ons intact of course). I am very happy with this frame; it is a keeper.
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From: Capital Area, Maine
Bikes: F. Moser, Trek 520, Kona Cinder Cone, Raleigh Olympian and others.
I got my1995 (?) Moser Leader AX frame and fork at a bike shop in Erd, Hungary in July 2010. I built it all up over the following couple of months and ended up with the best bike i have ever had. 
I built up velocity aerohead rims with blue nipples. A mostly 2007 Campy record group. and other great stuff like Nokon cable housing. It is a steel framed bike that weighs in at 19.04lbs. After the first 200 miles i realized that this is a machine built for high mountain swoopy descents. and it looks like i get bonus points because the rear break cable is routed through the top tube.
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That's a stupendous idea, Neal! I'll start in Italy to get an idea of the origins, then work my way up to the Netherlands via the Paris-Roubaix course to find one in my size. Of course, I'll be so close to Bavaria that I'd have to pop in and drink some brau and eat schnitzel.
Instead though, I'll be moving to Medford and changing diapers! Woo-hah!
Instead though, I'll be moving to Medford and changing diapers! Woo-hah!
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> show me your Moser
why, gladly!




I got this 1978 Francesco Moser San Cristobal frame in Austria and built it up as a fixed gear with blasphemously modern components. Originally it was a racing bike with tubulars, but it does fine with 700C wheels. For a racing bike, it is amazingly, even alarmingly comfortable. Eventually, the plan is to get another frame that I will build up as a fixed gear, and turn the Moser frame back into a geared racing bike (I have kept all the braze-ons intact of course). I am very happy with this frame; it is a keeper.
why, gladly!




I got this 1978 Francesco Moser San Cristobal frame in Austria and built it up as a fixed gear with blasphemously modern components. Originally it was a racing bike with tubulars, but it does fine with 700C wheels. For a racing bike, it is amazingly, even alarmingly comfortable. Eventually, the plan is to get another frame that I will build up as a fixed gear, and turn the Moser frame back into a geared racing bike (I have kept all the braze-ons intact of course). I am very happy with this frame; it is a keeper.
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From: Chattanooga
Bikes: '93 Bridgestone RB-1, '91 Specialized Allez Epic, '85 Raleigh Team Pro, '78 Andre Bertin, early '90s F. Moser Leader AX , '85 Centurion Equipe, '98 Litespeed Tuscany, '89 Klein Quantum, '80 Nishiki Superbe, '83 Peckham, '84 Fuji Opus III
""amazingly..."
".....alarmingly comfortable....." Wow, i would like to feel that!
J



I got this 1978 Francesco Moser San Cristobal frame in Austria and built it up as a fixed gear with blasphemously modern components. Originally it was a racing bike with tubulars, but it does fine with 700C wheels. For a racing bike, it is amazingly, even alarmingly comfortable. Eventually, the plan is to get another frame that I will build up as a fixed gear, and turn the Moser frame back into a geared racing bike (I have kept all the braze-ons intact of course). I am very happy with this frame; it is a keeper.[/QUOTE]
J



I got this 1978 Francesco Moser San Cristobal frame in Austria and built it up as a fixed gear with blasphemously modern components. Originally it was a racing bike with tubulars, but it does fine with 700C wheels. For a racing bike, it is amazingly, even alarmingly comfortable. Eventually, the plan is to get another frame that I will build up as a fixed gear, and turn the Moser frame back into a geared racing bike (I have kept all the braze-ons intact of course). I am very happy with this frame; it is a keeper.[/QUOTE]
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From: Poznań, Poland
Bikes: Moser Leader NP, Koga Miyata WT 86'
Here's my recent build. It's Moser Leader F.M. that's kind of hard to date, but I'm guessing around 1991. The frame is made of Oria GM0.0 tubing and Gipiemme drop-outs, internal cable routing for rear brake, chromed front and rear forks. Seat post size is 27,0mm, it's 55 cm c-c st, 55cm c-c tt. On the pictures it looks like Moser decals are fainted, but in fact they are bright pink (same as on head-tube),
It's build with Campagnolo Record 8 speed groupset and either as show with Shamal Titanium clincher or original Campagnolo Record hubs laced on Mavic CXP12 clincher rims.
3TTT cocpit, Campagnolo Chorus aoero seat-post (still got the original Record seatpost, but its 27,2mm diameter).


I hope you like it. I know it will not be considered Vintage by many, but I think this bike will grow into a classic in the next few years.
Cheers,
Paweł
It's build with Campagnolo Record 8 speed groupset and either as show with Shamal Titanium clincher or original Campagnolo Record hubs laced on Mavic CXP12 clincher rims.
3TTT cocpit, Campagnolo Chorus aoero seat-post (still got the original Record seatpost, but its 27,2mm diameter).


I hope you like it. I know it will not be considered Vintage by many, but I think this bike will grow into a classic in the next few years.
Cheers,
Paweł
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From: downtown Bulverde, Texas
Bikes: '74 Raleigh International utility; '98 Moser Forma road; '92 Viner Pro CX upright

'98 Forma, set up my way - mix of Chorus/Record, C-record/Moskva wheels, 8-sp friction, SR quill post (to solve a squat problem), Techomic Deluxe, Cinelli 64 dream bars, Modolo levers.
In addition to comfortable, this bike lunges up grades in tall gears.
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From: Poznań, Poland
Bikes: Moser Leader NP, Koga Miyata WT 86'
Wow, that's a nice, classic bike. I don't know if it's because of the components choice, but your frame looks more old school then mine. You said it was 1998? How did you determinate what year it is? I would like to date my frame as well.
Cheers,
Paweł
Cheers,
Paweł
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From: downtown Bulverde, Texas
Bikes: '74 Raleigh International utility; '98 Moser Forma road; '92 Viner Pro CX upright
I've found a '94 Moser catalog in Flickr images
Italian site Ray's history has /81-83 and '88-89 Moser catalogs
and a great tee-shirt graphic
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Moser seat tube modified
Hi, just wondering as l look at your frame and see a seatpost binder clamp on the seat tube; has the tube been modified with a slot cut into the rear of the tube? As far as I know (at least on Leader models I've seen) there was no slotting of the tube to allow for clamping; the post was bound by the wedge or expander plug Incorporated within the post itself similar to the quill style bar stems. My frame looks great without the clamp, but l thought I'd ask if they made a variant of my frame designed for a collar clamp or was this a custom job for ease of finding posts and/or adjustment. Thanks, Neal
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Hi, just wondering as l look at your frame and see a seatpost binder clamp on the seat tube; has the tube been modified with a slot cut into the rear of the tube? As far as I know (at least on Leader models I've seen) there was no slotting of the tube to allow for clamping; the post was bound by the wedge or expander plug Incorporated within the post itself similar to the quill style bar stems. My frame looks great without the clamp, but l thought I'd ask if they made a variant of my frame designed for a collar clamp or was this a custom job for ease of finding posts and/or adjustment. Thanks, Neal
That said a Moser has been an idea rolling around in my head off and on for a few years. They seem to have produced with a wide range of tubing brands, styles and other ideas. I am not sure if this was for monetary reason, following popularity or just trying to be innovative. I have been wanting a frame with Oria tubing and I think a Moser would be the way to go but I just never seem them at a reasonable price.
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Good Morning It seems [MENTION=88802]GeologyJoe[/MENTION] hasn't posted in awhile, but perhaps since we mentioned him he'll show up. You have the same frame? It is possible they orignailly came with the quill type seat post but the designed was changed later to incorporate a collar.
That said a Moser has been an idea rolling around in my head off and on for a few years. They seem to have produced with a wide range of tubing brands, styles and other ideas. I am not sure if this was for monetary reason, following popularity or just trying to be innovative. I have been wanting a frame with Oria tubing and I think a Moser would be the way to go but I just never seem them at a reasonable price.
That said a Moser has been an idea rolling around in my head off and on for a few years. They seem to have produced with a wide range of tubing brands, styles and other ideas. I am not sure if this was for monetary reason, following popularity or just trying to be innovative. I have been wanting a frame with Oria tubing and I think a Moser would be the way to go but I just never seem them at a reasonable price.
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I had attempted twice to post 2 very long comments just to have them be erased while trying to include photos. No comments or photos now. Too pissed to do it a third time. No one will ever see what I'm doing. Oh well. Another month offline to reset my aging psyche.
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Good Morning It seems [MENTION=88802]GeologyJoe[/MENTION] hasn't posted in awhile, but perhaps since we mentioned him he'll show up. You have the same frame? It is possible they orignailly came with the quill type seat post but the designed was changed later to incorporate a collar.
That said a Moser has been an idea rolling around in my head off and on for a few years. They seem to have produced with a wide range of tubing brands, styles and other ideas. I am not sure if this was for monetary reason, following popularity or just trying to be innovative. I have been wanting a frame with Oria tubing and I think a Moser would be the way to go but I just never seem them at a reasonable price.
That said a Moser has been an idea rolling around in my head off and on for a few years. They seem to have produced with a wide range of tubing brands, styles and other ideas. I am not sure if this was for monetary reason, following popularity or just trying to be innovative. I have been wanting a frame with Oria tubing and I think a Moser would be the way to go but I just never seem them at a reasonable price.
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Not much of a rule follower myself. Everyone wants photos. I only go online about 4 times a year. I'll try harder; in a couple months then maybe a Moser picture for the "show your Moser". The logic makes me gag, but by then it will be completed and ridden (maybe crashed).
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OK here’s mine. I think it’s an ‘84 maybe an ‘85 - has the ‘84 hour record pantograph. I bought it several years ago as a donor for the Super Record group but it fit me and turned out to be a very nice rider. Super Record 6 with Mavic G40’s . Since this pic a few days ago, she’s cleaned up with fresh Columbus stickers applied. Ready for Eroica!
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I a fool for continuing, but now deleting my account, no more wasted time. Bye
Thanks Horatio,
Not much of a rule follower myself. Everyone wants photos. I only go online about 4 times a year. I'll try harder; in a couple months then maybe a Moser picture for the "show your Moser". The logic makes me gag, but by then it will be completed and ridden (maybe crashed).
Not much of a rule follower myself. Everyone wants photos. I only go online about 4 times a year. I'll try harder; in a couple months then maybe a Moser picture for the "show your Moser". The logic makes me gag, but by then it will be completed and ridden (maybe crashed).
Goodbye,
THE FOOL with a bike (or 2)
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Nobody will see or hear from me (doesn't really work if I can't participate, already discriminated against just by being a member; really just a guest looking in from the outside and never understanding why I can't join the party). Been wonderful amassing "points" to show how useless and unimportant my knowledge and experience is. It's like getting laid off from work; not my fault, but more logical laws are governing the world of who's needed to be heard from, who gets to work. I guess l'll have to get more points to keep my job. What, these points don't count for anything; then why have them. Merely the EGO ABACUS upon which others may judge you based on the all knowing point system. Sayonara!! Don't know if this deletes when I euthanizy account. If it doesn't; I apologize for my lingering verbal dust. Horatio, you tried, but I'm blocked as a fool should be.
Goodbye,
THE FOOL with a bike (or 2)
Goodbye,
THE FOOL with a bike (or 2)
It looks like you have some interesting bikes in your collection. I'd love to see some pics of them, as well as the Moser.
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