hi Colnago Experts out there,

a friend of mine just bought a colnago but ain't sure which model it is.

Colnago words and clovers stamped all over the place.

top of bottom bracket has the words colnago on both sides,
bottom of bottom bracker the famous clover picture.

everywhere else, eg. forks crown clover, chain stays colnago words, seat tube brake calipers bracket clover, not round tubes but i believe it's glico design.

someone said this might be a 1999 or 2000 millienium model?? colour looks like titanium.

on all lugs clover. sorry i will be posting pictures as soon as i get it from him.

I've searched all over the internet for it and can't seem to think of any model close to it. thought it was the victory at first, then might have been the super, then......

columbus acciaio speciali , tubi rinzonfitonmlkmkj guranteee something ...

other than that nothing else, no numbers on bottom bracket i believe.

hope someone can solve this mystery which 3 of us friends here have been thinking all night long.

Host then post

Gilco tubing was used on the Master frame. a number of versions out there.

Pictures would GREATLY help.

From your description this could be any number of models. Pictures are a must. I consider myself very knowledgeable on the subject of Colnagos, but am not going to be able to point you in any one direction without a better description or some pics.

I'll check back later...

DD

HI Guys

really new here and have been reading bike forums for a while. got into road bikes last years after a friend gave me a old mountain and my love for bikes came back. taught me quite a fair bit and i got hooked. a pity all my bikes i had since young especially the old cruiser is no longer around.

I've also purchase a frame that has suntour dropouts, and on the fork as well.

my first project was an olmo oria hi tensile steel which i'm currently building and intend to give it to the friend who taught me all the stuff on biking that he knows. he has been eyeing my restoration project and i guess this will be the perfect gift.

2nd project was cleaning another bike full of 600 parts arabesque which a close friend's dad gave it to me when he knew i was into vintage bikes.

and now this suntour frame???? if there was ever one will be a full super be project. there are some old decals dat says superbe pro on the frame.

thanks and hope to hear from you guys.

awaiting fotos from my mate who just loves old steel, unrestored so much.

hi all vintage colnago experts, i'm back. this bike has a spacing of 130 and i believe this might have been the millienium model., not too sure but here's the pictures. hope someone out there can tell me exactly which model this is.

thanks.

heres' more pcitures

not sure how it might appear on your browser but the first pic is the blaze on, i think only newer colnago models have blaze on, 2nd picture is the top of the bottom bracket where the words colnago appear insteal of the clover which i see commonly found.

3rd picture is the bottom brack with the clover and the word colnago stamped on it.

finally 4th pic the seat stay colnago. the paint looks titanium.

columbus acciaiao specile or something like dat, columbus special steel. ,,, and the other one which says something strength guaranteed after the translation.

the parts of this bike are all normal shimano parts.

also i tried on my friend's bike and fell in love with it straight away. what might be the value of this frame? it rides really well, responsives is great compared to all other steel bike i ride. i've tried the schwin, saronni, olmos, but nothing has beaten this bike, i'm so tempered to buy the bike from my friend. this might be my only chance as well to own this expensive bike.

Hi-jacking your thread since my thread in the inquiry forum has gone untouched.

Any idea on year and model on this? Friend brought it back to me from Italy.

Don't think it is a Colnago.

never seen a colnago with tubi oria... looks like a repainted frame... looks like there was some overspray on the bottom headset cup... no cut outs on the fork crowns which is a colnago staple. maybe a repaint with colnago decals? any cut outs on the headtube lug, bottom bracket or seat stay?

how bout mine? does anyone knows which odel of colnago is mine?

the tubes are not the commonly found round tubes by the way. thanks. really hope to know.

Can you take a photo of the entire bike from the drive side?

I should let one of the real Colnago experts have at this, but based on the 1988 catalog, it's a little like the Master Piu, but with major details differing: the "crimping" of the tubes appears much more shallow than the true Gilco shaped tubes of that model, and it seems like yours only has it on the TT and DT, plus yours has no chrome on the headlugs...so must be a lower model. Seat stay treatment and forkcrown seems about right for something in the mid/late '80s...real experts will know more.
https://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/colnago-88/13.jpg
and word to both you guys with Colnago ID questions: show the TT cable guides or internal cable routing (whichever it has).
and, I agree with vjp: dark red frame does not appear to be a Colnago.

thakns a lot. yes the crimping is not very shallow , not sure if the ST has the same pattern as well, i will be going down to the shop where my friend has put his bike and have a look. forks are crome, head lugs, i will have a look closely and see if any chrome behind the paint. a lot of people at the shop says that it's original paint.

it's cable guides and not internal routing.

Didn't fit any Colnago signature notes I knew of. The paint is shady (and awful craftsmanship), but the decals are perfectly sound and straight - weird that). Mystery frame! dundundun. Pretty unique overall. Should be able to figure it out eventually.

^ it shows some nice detailing in the stay-to-DO and forkend treatment...obviously a good quality frame, but don't recognize that as anybody's "signature" I know.. Has the portacatena holes in DOs and the "can opener" version of the Cinelli IC BB shell, which will help date it. Check the steerer and see if it's "rifled" at the base.
Oh, and looks like it takes nutted brakes: true?
Man, it's nagging me that I know I've seen the "deep scalloping" on the stays like that somewhere, but I can't pull a name out of my memory hat!
I'd be stripping the fuggly paint on it faster than you could say "fakenago" if it was mine...it deserves a good paint job and its correct name.

Made after 1978, that's for sure.

-Kurt

The OP's bike looks like it has channels rather than the more fully shaped Gilco tubing as used on the Master. That being the case, I'd bet cash money it's a Nuovo Mexico circa 1983-5, judging by the frame details. If it's spaced at 130, it was spread at some point.

My opinion is that it was pretty rude of "blaise_f" to so blatantly hijack the thread with a bunch of his own pics and questions. I realize he started a thread in the appraisals forum and no one responded, but that should just be a clue to start another thread in regular C and V, not elbow in on another poster's ID thread. My gosh, it's not like they charge you to start a new thread.

+10 Start your own thread. Also, your bike is not a Colnago, as was pointed out in your other thread.

To the OP: If you think any components are original, check for date codes. All the Shimano stuff will have codes, as will many other parts. The only problem with using date codes is once someone changes components on their bike, the codes are not very useful. But some parts are less frequently changed: seat posts and stems, which often have codes. And I have found date codes on steering tubes as well.

+1 I think that bike is a lot older than 1999.

^I think we have a winner, here.
here's a link to pics of a 1986 Nuovo Mexico, author describes the TT as having 2 crimps and the DT having 4...but his forkcrown shows a different panto:
https://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2008/cc...ersey0308.html

I am no expert but if these brakes are anywhere near original to the frame, I don't think it is a '99/2000ish bike. most companies went to recessed brakes in the by the mid eighties. OH the tubes are corregated or crimped. that I belive makes it a Master yes?