retrofitting old frame with new parts
10-19-04 | 05:49 AM
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retrofitting old frame with new parts
after years of tinkering on bikes, I'd really like to try to hot-rod out an old frame. I'm looking at an old Bianchi Campione d'Italia from the mid 80's, a beautuiful Puch as well as an equivalently old Serotta. The problem is I'm currently riding a Cannondale CAAD 4 frame I built up a few years ago with 9 speed Ultegra. I want to spend the off season cannibalizing wy CDale and moving parts over to the Classic frame. Obviously there's going to be some problems, and I know there will be a lot of incompatiblities, but what can I expect to spend and what will I need to do that might be beyond my abilities (ie spreading the rear triangle).
Sorry this is so broad, thanks for the help
Sorry this is so broad, thanks for the help
10-19-04 | 06:02 AM
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The biggest problem you're going to have is the frame spacing for the rear wheel. Steel frames can be spread slightly. I suggest you check this aspect out first before you go any further.
10-19-04 | 08:45 AM
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Bikes: 1 trek, serotta, rih, de Reus, Pogliaghi and finally a Zieleman! and got a DeRosa
I've "hot-rodded" a late 89 Serotta, mine came with frame spaced at 130 so
spreading frame wasn't a problem. If you need to spread the frame, have
LBS do it, they can check alignment while they're at it. The places that you might need to spend additional $ are, clamp on Front Derailleur. You will also need cable adjusters
for the STI (the nice Dura Ace ones fit fine on the DT shifter bosses, these
are probably less than $20 at LBS. My Serotta was pretty much standard English
threading, so BB wasn't problem (Bianchi might have italian BB shell ?), Not sure
about seat post for C'dale due to oversized tubes as all I've ridden is steel (27.2 seatpost).
If it were me, I'd do the Serotta not the Bianchi, based on Serotta (nova?) is a better
frame.
Marty
spreading frame wasn't a problem. If you need to spread the frame, have
LBS do it, they can check alignment while they're at it. The places that you might need to spend additional $ are, clamp on Front Derailleur. You will also need cable adjusters
for the STI (the nice Dura Ace ones fit fine on the DT shifter bosses, these
are probably less than $20 at LBS. My Serotta was pretty much standard English
threading, so BB wasn't problem (Bianchi might have italian BB shell ?), Not sure
about seat post for C'dale due to oversized tubes as all I've ridden is steel (27.2 seatpost).
If it were me, I'd do the Serotta not the Bianchi, based on Serotta (nova?) is a better
frame.
Marty
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( I didn't spread myself.)
10-19-04 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by lotek
... My Serotta was pretty much standard English
threading, so BB wasn't problem (Bianchi might have italian BB shell ?), Not sure
about seat post for C'dale due to oversized tubes as all I've ridden is steel (27.2 seatpost).
If it were me, I'd do the Serotta not the Bianchi, based on Serotta (nova?) is a better
frame.
Marty
threading, so BB wasn't problem (Bianchi might have italian BB shell ?), Not sure
about seat post for C'dale due to oversized tubes as all I've ridden is steel (27.2 seatpost).
If it were me, I'd do the Serotta not the Bianchi, based on Serotta (nova?) is a better
frame.
Marty
I admit to being biased
, but in what way do you consider the Serotta superior to the Bianchi?
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
10-20-04 | 06:22 AM
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JohnE
well, as I said biased.
The comment wasn't to disparage the Bianchi, nor the ride.
I think that serotta, being a small buider (at that time) paid
more attention to detail (brazing etc.) than a production shop.
That isn't to say that I'd make the same comment about a
Specialissima, or other top of the line Bianchi.
Marty
well, as I said biased.
The comment wasn't to disparage the Bianchi, nor the ride.
I think that serotta, being a small buider (at that time) paid
more attention to detail (brazing etc.) than a production shop.
That isn't to say that I'd make the same comment about a
Specialissima, or other top of the line Bianchi.
Marty
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