The Wizard
02-15-11 | 08:28 PM
#27
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From: Collegeville, PA
Bikes: Ruckelshaus Randonneur, Specialized Allez (early 90's, steel), Ruckelshaus Path Bomber currently being built
Baylis does amazing work. I saw one of his frames at FreshFrame naked and waiting for paint...amazing craftsmanship. If I were ever to buy a custom frame, he'd be the guy to build it for me.
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02-15-11 | 08:46 PM
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From: Philadelphia PA
Bikes: Mid 50's Frejus, Late 50's Frejus, Early 1960s Frejus Professional, Mid 1960's Frejus Professional, Early 70's Gloria (branded), 76 Blue Pogliaghi
Great bike - "no one beats the wiz"...well, someone had to say it...
Just out of interest - incredible frame, but the suntour cylone rear deraileur seems out of place for such a bike. It's mid level on a high end bike.
What would be the suitable replacement - I assume all campy is in order.
Anyone else agree?
Just out of interest - incredible frame, but the suntour cylone rear deraileur seems out of place for such a bike. It's mid level on a high end bike.
What would be the suitable replacement - I assume all campy is in order.
Anyone else agree?
02-15-11 | 09:50 PM
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Bikes: 84 Coppi - 94 Hujsak - 82 Colnago Superissimo - 78 Ciöcc - 70's Galmozzi - 73 Lambert - 78 Motobecane Grand Record - 87 Peugeot Triathlon - 66 Peugeot H-40 - 78 Peugeot U08 - 85 Raleigh C-40 - 82 miyata 310 - 82 Univega - 85 Sterling SIS Mixte
02-15-11 | 11:21 PM
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From: Canton, OH
Bikes: 1990 Trek 1420 - 1978 Raleigh Professional - 1973 Schwinn Collegiate - 1974 Schwinn Suburban
Great bike - "no one beats the wiz"...well, someone had to say it...
Just out of interest - incredible frame, but the suntour cylone rear deraileur seems out of place for such a bike. It's mid level on a high end bike.
What would be the suitable replacement - I assume all campy is in order.
Anyone else agree?
Just out of interest - incredible frame, but the suntour cylone rear deraileur seems out of place for such a bike. It's mid level on a high end bike.
What would be the suitable replacement - I assume all campy is in order.
Anyone else agree?
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02-16-11 | 09:51 AM
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02-16-11 | 10:09 AM
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From: Lancaster County, PA
Bikes: '39 Hobbs, '58 Marastoni, '73 Italian custom, '75 Wizard, '76 Wilier, '78 Tom Kellogg, '79 Colnago Super, '79 Sachs, '81 Masi Prestige, '82 Cuevas, '83 Picchio Special, '84 Murray-Serotta, '85 Trek 170, '89 Bianchi, '90 Bill Holland, '94 Grandis
Which is interesting, as Baylis has said that Albert's penchant for extensively (and uniformly) thinned lugs is about the only thing he doesn't like about Eisentraut's work.
02-16-11 | 08:18 PM
#36
Yes, but the Wizard here shows a tapered seat lug/tube at the seat post socket, I have not seen this feature on other Wizards, but I have only seen a dozen or so. To be fair to Brian, Wizard was when he was quite young, and from my view, finding his theme. Comparing the lug set on this Blue Wizard to a GC and you see the Masi extended lug treatment on the seat lug, and the shorelines at the top tube sockets, nary modified at all form the original stampings, just cleaned up, Masi cut them back more.
06-27-11 | 11:18 PM
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Bikes: 72 Cilo Pacer, 72 Gitane GT, 72 Peugeot PX10, 73 Speedwell Ti,l, 75 Peugeot PR-10L, 80 Colnago Super, 81 Zinn, 85 ALAN Cross, 85 De Rosa Pro, 86 Look 753, 86 Look KG86, 89 Parkpre Team, 90 Parkpre Team MTB, 90 Merlin
Thread resurrection, but I don't think most will mind. Stumbled on this beauty in my lbs (for sale) and snapped a few pics:
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'72 Cilo Pacer (x2) • '72 Peugeot PX10 • ‘72 Gitane Gran Tourisme • '73 Speedwell Ti • '74 Motobecane Grand Jubile • '74 Peugeot UE-8 • ‘80 Colnago Super • ‘81 Univega Super Special • ‘82 Zinn • ‘84ish Mystery Custom • '85 A.L.A.N Cyclocross • '85 De Rosa Pro • '86 Look Equipe 753 • '86 Look KG86 • '89 Parkpre Team Road • '90 Parkpre Team MTB • '90 Merlin Ti
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'72 Cilo Pacer (x2) • '72 Peugeot PX10 • ‘72 Gitane Gran Tourisme • '73 Speedwell Ti • '74 Motobecane Grand Jubile • '74 Peugeot UE-8 • ‘80 Colnago Super • ‘81 Univega Super Special • ‘82 Zinn • ‘84ish Mystery Custom • '85 A.L.A.N Cyclocross • '85 De Rosa Pro • '86 Look Equipe 753 • '86 Look KG86 • '89 Parkpre Team Road • '90 Parkpre Team MTB • '90 Merlin Ti
Avatar photo courtesy of jeffveloart.com, contact: contact: jeffnil8 (at) gmail.com.
06-28-11 | 04:35 AM
#38
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From: Lancaster County, PA
Bikes: '39 Hobbs, '58 Marastoni, '73 Italian custom, '75 Wizard, '76 Wilier, '78 Tom Kellogg, '79 Colnago Super, '79 Sachs, '81 Masi Prestige, '82 Cuevas, '83 Picchio Special, '84 Murray-Serotta, '85 Trek 170, '89 Bianchi, '90 Bill Holland, '94 Grandis
Is that a repaint (per the Litton decal)? I get the impression that Baylis did the original paint for those, but maybe I'm wrong. If Brian was the original painter, I would think his work would account for some of the value of the bikes/frames (not that Ed Litton doesn't do superior work). A cool frame in any case.
06-28-11 | 06:46 AM
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From: Toronto, Ontario
Wow, I've got a new grail bike. That's too cool. I put in a vote for keeping the componentry as is. I liked seeing the cyclone too, first of all it's cool and unusual like the frame, and obviously the rider cared more about performance than making everything "high end". I'm not sure if it's just the lighting, but that is the most beautiful blue I've ever seen for a bike.
06-28-11 | 06:50 AM
#41
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From: Hervey Bay, Qld, Australia.
Bikes: Colnago (82, 85, 89, 90, 91, 96, 03), 85 Cinelli, 90 Rossin, 83 Alan, 82 Bianchi, 78 Fountain, 2 x Pinarello, Malvern Star (37), Hillman (70's), 80's Beretto Lo-Pro Track, 80's Kenevans Lo-Pro, Columbus Max (95), DeGrandi (80's) Track.
I saw a Wizard in a magazine a dozen or so years ago and fell in love with it. It was black and had Omas titanium bits. I have never forgotten it. Yours in the second one I have seen and I can see beauty is in the Wizard DNA.
What a great story especially with your father's very wise choice of builders.
What a great story especially with your father's very wise choice of builders.
06-28-11 | 09:20 AM
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From: Berkeley, CA
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That's my assumption, too, though I didn't confirm. There are a couple small chips here & there, but it's in too good of shape not to have been repainted IMO.
Velo Sport in Berkeley. (If it was my size, the store name would have been a secret.
) But just to be clear, the OP's bike isn't for sale. Apologies to the OP for sidetracking the thread.
Velo Sport in Berkeley. (If it was my size, the store name would have been a secret.
) But just to be clear, the OP's bike isn't for sale. Apologies to the OP for sidetracking the thread.
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'72 Cilo Pacer (x2) • '72 Peugeot PX10 • ‘72 Gitane Gran Tourisme • '73 Speedwell Ti • '74 Motobecane Grand Jubile • '74 Peugeot UE-8 • ‘80 Colnago Super • ‘81 Univega Super Special • ‘82 Zinn • ‘84ish Mystery Custom • '85 A.L.A.N Cyclocross • '85 De Rosa Pro • '86 Look Equipe 753 • '86 Look KG86 • '89 Parkpre Team Road • '90 Parkpre Team MTB • '90 Merlin Ti
Avatar photo courtesy of jeffveloart.com, contact: contact: jeffnil8 (at) gmail.com.
-Randy
'72 Cilo Pacer (x2) • '72 Peugeot PX10 • ‘72 Gitane Gran Tourisme • '73 Speedwell Ti • '74 Motobecane Grand Jubile • '74 Peugeot UE-8 • ‘80 Colnago Super • ‘81 Univega Super Special • ‘82 Zinn • ‘84ish Mystery Custom • '85 A.L.A.N Cyclocross • '85 De Rosa Pro • '86 Look Equipe 753 • '86 Look KG86 • '89 Parkpre Team Road • '90 Parkpre Team MTB • '90 Merlin Ti
Avatar photo courtesy of jeffveloart.com, contact: contact: jeffnil8 (at) gmail.com.
06-28-11 | 03:48 PM
#43
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No worries, very cool to see another one.
Re the questions people have had about the components on Dad's Wizard. Apparently he built it up originally as a century bike with parts he had on hand. Hubs were campy large flange, crank was nuovo record, brakes dura ace, rear derailleur was cyclone, and the front derailleur is lost to time. When his knees started getting bad he did what he could to "soften" the ride by getting new wheels (600 hubs) with bigger tires and changing the front derailleur to 105. So the bike has always been a hodgepodge and I like it that way. I switched the hubs back to campy, but otherwise things are pretty much as dad left them. He also had a different saddle on there. I don't know what it was, but I remember it being black. Might have to change out the one I have. I'm not sure what an appropriate mid seventies vintage saddle would be.
Re the questions people have had about the components on Dad's Wizard. Apparently he built it up originally as a century bike with parts he had on hand. Hubs were campy large flange, crank was nuovo record, brakes dura ace, rear derailleur was cyclone, and the front derailleur is lost to time. When his knees started getting bad he did what he could to "soften" the ride by getting new wheels (600 hubs) with bigger tires and changing the front derailleur to 105. So the bike has always been a hodgepodge and I like it that way. I switched the hubs back to campy, but otherwise things are pretty much as dad left them. He also had a different saddle on there. I don't know what it was, but I remember it being black. Might have to change out the one I have. I'm not sure what an appropriate mid seventies vintage saddle would be.
06-28-11 | 04:55 PM
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Lugs and Fischer fork crowns were not easy to come by back then. At the time a few speculated that the Masi like parts were liberated. There are a number of Wizards with Nervex pro lugs too.
A few years ago there was a Masi frame on ebay that had the seat lug filed as that one is only more so, which I consider a tribute to Albert Eisentraut.
There are not too many of these as stated. There is no "James Dean" parallel here so the prices will not Match a Confente, but a Wizard would be a good addition to a California Masi and Related Bike Collection. You could start with a Carlesbad Masi, a Wizard, a Medici, a Confente, Eisentraut, Lippy, Roberson, Tesch, American Moulton, Starck, And I might be leaving one out. Not a cheap collection to acquire though.
A few years ago there was a Masi frame on ebay that had the seat lug filed as that one is only more so, which I consider a tribute to Albert Eisentraut.
There are not too many of these as stated. There is no "James Dean" parallel here so the prices will not Match a Confente, but a Wizard would be a good addition to a California Masi and Related Bike Collection. You could start with a Carlesbad Masi, a Wizard, a Medici, a Confente, Eisentraut, Lippy, Roberson, Tesch, American Moulton, Starck, And I might be leaving one out. Not a cheap collection to acquire though.
Interestingly, in the CR archives, Baylis thinks that Mike Howard's best work was with Wizard, and you get real inconsistency with the finishes on the Medicis (which I have not seen enough of to comment pro or con).
Even so, my early '90s Simonetti (filet brazed Tange) done by Howard rides wonderfully, and still feels Italianesque.
06-28-11 | 06:29 PM
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From: Lancaster County, PA
Bikes: '39 Hobbs, '58 Marastoni, '73 Italian custom, '75 Wizard, '76 Wilier, '78 Tom Kellogg, '79 Colnago Super, '79 Sachs, '81 Masi Prestige, '82 Cuevas, '83 Picchio Special, '84 Murray-Serotta, '85 Trek 170, '89 Bianchi, '90 Bill Holland, '94 Grandis
06-28-11 | 09:40 PM
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From: Pacific Northwest
Bikes: 1975 Eisentraut Ltd, 1995 Trek 7000 MTB, 2007 Masi Vincere, 1974 Masi GC, 1981 Specialized Allez, 1984 Specialized Sequoia
Bane
Beautiful bike. Truely one of the best of the California breed. If you ever feel like bringing your Dad's Wizard out to a Velo Retro Rose Bowl ride give us a post. I'd like to rando down to one of the meets on my Carlsbad Masi once I get it back from touch-up at JC's CyclArt.
Oh, and the saddle, a Mexican Unicanitor, cool! I have one on my Sequoia.
Other California (south of bay area) builders on my list: Tim Neenan Lighthouse, Chris Pauley and Greg Diamond Tierra
Jim
Beautiful bike. Truely one of the best of the California breed. If you ever feel like bringing your Dad's Wizard out to a Velo Retro Rose Bowl ride give us a post. I'd like to rando down to one of the meets on my Carlsbad Masi once I get it back from touch-up at JC's CyclArt.
Oh, and the saddle, a Mexican Unicanitor, cool! I have one on my Sequoia.
Other California (south of bay area) builders on my list: Tim Neenan Lighthouse, Chris Pauley and Greg Diamond Tierra
Jim
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10-06-12 | 05:29 PM
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Bikes: De Rosa Primato - LOOK KG281 - Somec Rex - Mondonico Monostay
Man, nice shape. That looks like it would fit me. 61 or 62cm? Maybe larger...
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