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Old 05-23-11 | 09:26 PM
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That is one of the yummiest frames ever on eBay (I assume it was there...). I can't wait to see the final product.
I hope it is that one, because its very cool that it went to a forum member.

that TT frame is sick, but its so the opposite of my style that I just couldn't justify owning one

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that one on ebay is still there...you should get it Keith.
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Old 05-23-11 | 09:32 PM
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that one on ebay is still there...you should get it Keith.
Heh, I wish... DA7700 on that pup, hoo boy

I think they might have had more than one. That's bicyclists_retreat. I think I asked them about it a while back and have a vague recollection they might have had two at the time I asked.
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Old 05-23-11 | 09:33 PM
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Yeah, it's one of the two that Cyclist's Retreat was selling BIN on eBay. Now there's one left. I just got so worried when about a month or so ago that Zaphod recommended to a poster that he should think about buying and building my baby. Anyone reading that post could have gotten the wrong idea - I had to jump on it before it disappeared.
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Old 05-23-11 | 09:37 PM
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It seems expensive at $799 but could you get that quality in a steel frame new for that price (along with the fun and bling factor)? Group and wheels and "stuff" ~$1000 and yowser what a bike for <$2000.

EDIT: Get all DA7700 including DA7400 stem and seatpost and transpose your frame on to this :


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Old 05-23-11 | 09:56 PM
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Yeah, it's one of the two that Cyclist's Retreat was selling BIN on eBay. Now there's one left. I just got so worried when about a month or so ago that Zaphod recommended to a poster that he should think about buying and building my baby. Anyone reading that post could have gotten the wrong idea - I had to jump on it before it disappeared.
Whooops! sorry to out your dream! (glad they had 2 though)

they're awesome bikes. You will not be disappointed. I don't think you can get anything as good or nearly as cool for $799 new.

yer killin me with the DA man. Nice.
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I think it was a good value, and I have equipped it with mostly NOS 7700, so the total price turned out to be somewhat more yet than your estimate.

Had a bottom bracket issue with getting the small chainring spaced properly away from the chainstay, so I brought it to my LBS... Not only did it get immediate attention, jumping in front of probably 3 days of backlog, all the mechanics stopped working and just ogled it for half an hour. They thought it must be a collector's bike that only went to shows. The bling and shine had them hypnotized, and they talked about how some of the other mechanics and salesman just wouldn't believe what came into their shop while they were away.

It was really eye-opening how attractive a 20 year old steel pro bike was to them when all their high price racy offerings were aluminum and carbon.
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I think it was a good value, and I have equipped it with mostly NOS 7700,

Well, lets see it!

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I think it was a good value, and I have equipped it with mostly NOS 7700, so the total price turned out to be somewhat more yet than your estimate.

Had a bottom bracket issue with getting the small chainring spaced properly away from the chainstay, so I brought it to my LBS... Not only did it get immediate attention, jumping in front of probably 3 days of backlog, all the mechanics stopped working and just ogled it for half an hour. They thought it must be a collector's bike that only went to shows. The bling and shine had them hypnotized, and they talked about how some of the other mechanics and salesman just wouldn't believe what came into their shop while they were away.

It was really eye-opening how attractive a 20 year old steel pro bike was to them when all their high price racy offerings were aluminum and carbon.
HAHAHA, too funny, I had the same experience with the Opus! Called about a RD hangar alignment....they said Tuesday (it was Saturday). I took it in....they had it done two hours later
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I follow Miyata on eBay quite closely. When you bought they had two, but couldn't it be that they had even more than two initially? They are advertising the NOS Team Miyata frames for a couple years already. They also had the bonded frames in small size, but they sold their last one about a half year ago.
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Old 05-24-11 | 06:37 AM
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When the 58cm Team frameset appeared on my radar about last December, they had two. Prior to that, I do not know.

After I bought in April, they are now saying they have one remaining.
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Old 05-24-11 | 09:06 AM
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One thing is for sure: it is a very nice frame
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Old 05-24-11 | 09:47 AM
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+1 to the shop guys drooling over Team Miyatas. I facilitated one for Aaron not too long ago, and even though the bike had lived a pretty active life, they were loving it.

I haven't ridden as many bikes as most of you guys, but that was about my favorite bike to ride. Ever.

Did that '91 up there come with the Aluminum fork? I've got my eye permanently open for big-framed Teams, but I swear it'll be my luck that when I do get one it'll be one of the ones with the stupid aluminum fork.
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I'm glad someone finally bought one of those NOS Team frames. I'd have gone for it if they had a 54cm one. $800 seems steep but there's no way you'll get a new frame that nice for the price. I absolutely love my '89 Team Miyata, even with the aftermarket top tube. The ride quality is sublime. Let's see some pics of the full build!
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Old 05-24-11 | 09:54 AM
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Can anyone comment on the sizing for that Aero Miyata frame? The geometry has got to be a good bit different than the standard Team version, but that year's catalog only list the geometry for the standard Team. 56cm is the smallest that made the Aero frame in, but that doesn't really tell me much about the top-tube length.

I would loooooove to have that frame if I can fit it.
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If there's enough interest in the geometry I'll go measure it...
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I ride a fairly short top-tube (ideally 53cm or less), so I don't have a lot of hope that it would fit. With funny bike geometry being pretty much unknown to me, I don't know how a 56cm seat-tube translates.
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Old 05-24-11 | 10:25 AM
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I ride a fairly short top-tube (ideally 53cm or less), so I don't have a lot of hope that it would fit. With funny bike geometry being pretty much unknown to me, I don't know how a 56cm seat-tube translates.
If I can locate a protractor I'll measure it next time I'm close....lengths and angles.
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Old 05-24-11 | 10:46 AM
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No hurry. I have been looking on and off for a funny-bike for some time now, but have yet to see one in person to check the fit. From what I've seen, they weren't made in small sizes (at least in the seat tube). I'm just holding onto hope, I suppose. A Miyata funny bike would be my #1 pick, if I were able to make one work.
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+1 to the shop guys drooling over Team Miyatas. I facilitated one for Aaron not too long ago, and even though the bike had lived a pretty active life, they were loving it.

I haven't ridden as many bikes as most of you guys, but that was about my favorite bike to ride. Ever.

Did that '91 up there come with the Aluminum fork? I've got my eye permanently open for big-framed Teams, but I swear it'll be my luck that when I do get one it'll be one of the ones with the stupid aluminum fork.
There is an ex-Tulip computers Koga on the bay now. Same frame. 59cm and steel fork. Lacking its decals however.
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Did that '91 up there come with the Aluminum fork? I've got my eye permanently open for big-framed Teams, but I swear it'll be my luck that when I do get one it'll be one of the ones with the stupid aluminum fork.
I don't think any steel Miyata ever came with an aluminum fork. Certainly not the Team frame.
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Originally Posted by Vinci
Can anyone comment on the sizing for that Aero Miyata frame? The geometry has got to be a good bit different than the standard Team version, but that year's catalog only list the geometry for the standard Team. 56cm is the smallest that made the Aero frame in, but that doesn't really tell me much about the top-tube length.

I would loooooove to have that frame if I can fit it.
The toptube of my RecordPro (same frame) with 58cm c-t seattube meassured 560mm.
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I don't think any steel Miyata ever came with an aluminum fork. Certainly not the Team frame.
Actually they did. In the early 90s the Team Miyata did come with it, but also Koga specced it on its FullPro. The Pro got the Hardtlite (steel) fork in 1991, while the FullPro came with the bonded al fork. As a kind of upgrade. Apparently a popular feature, as in later years the al fork was also chosen for the FP.

Koga also had a fork similar in contruction to the bonded al ones, but with carbon blades. I doubt whether there ever was a US Miyata issued with that fork.
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Actually they did. In the early 90s the Team Miyata did come with it, but also Koga specced it on its FullPro. The Pro got the Hardtlite (steel) fork in 1991, while the FullPro came with the bonded al fork. As a kind of upgrade. Apparently a popular feature, as in later years the al fork was also chosen for the FP.

Koga also had a fork similar in contruction to the bonded al ones, but with carbon blades. I doubt whether there ever was a US Miyata issued with that fork.
Oh, you're right. I missed that. Looks like the '93 Team came with an Al fork according to the catalog. That's a bummer.
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I understand you have preferance for the steel fork. The bonded al one is a quite nice fork however. Light too.

I don't have a lot own experience with the aluminum road forks, but of the own bonded MTB fork I can say it is great. It can deal with a lot abuse and there is very substantial weight saving compared to the tig'ed steel 'BigChamp'.
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I've only ridden a Cannondale Al fork but that thing was horrible. Way too much stiffness in a place where you don't really want it.
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