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Old 03-04-11 | 12:40 PM
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70s Bianchi id help needed

The main q'n for me is the model and what year it is from.

It has campy dropouts on the frame on the fork it's not to be seen on the pix.

The frame numbers might give a clue on the 1'st q'n.

And is the fork correct for the model.

Due to the camp decal on the maintube it obiously was equipped with campa parts, but due to he campy dropouts i can't imagine it was valentino.

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Old 03-04-11 | 02:00 PM
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I'd say a '77-'78 Rekord. They used the same frame for at least two Rekord models, the parts determining the level. They did use that same Campagnolo top-tube sticker on the frames with Valentino and Record. But your's was not Valentino. These were usually a mix of Gipiemme and Nuovo Record with Universal 77 brakesets.

They're pretty nice frames and would be a good candidate for a full Nuovo Record gruppo. The fork is correct, they used that crown through 1980.

Here's a catalog link:

https://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/...page3.jpg.html

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Old 03-05-11 | 01:25 AM
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Thanks Otis,

A few q'ns left after reading your reply.

How do you know it's a 77/78 model.
How do you know this bike was not equipped with valentino


I was worried that the fork didn't match the frame, but it is wich is a great relieve as i was not sure about it.

Ok so i'm gonne build it up with Gipiemme crankset and universal brakes/levers and the rest campy was this including the hubs or where these gipiemme too as i believe they where equipped with gipiemme hubs. Correct?

Thans so far it is very welcome info.
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Old 03-05-11 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BG2
Thanks Otis,

A few q'ns left after reading your reply.

How do you know it's a 77/78 model.
How do you know this bike was not equipped with valentino


I was worried that the fork didn't match the frame, but it is wich is a great relieve as i was not sure about it.

Ok so i'm gonne build it up with Gipiemme crankset and universal brakes/levers and the rest campy was this including the hubs or where these gipiemme too as i believe they where equipped with gipiemme hubs. Correct?

Thans so far it is very welcome info.
I do not know for sure on the date (and have learned with Bianchi's not use definites), but 1975 (and I think 1976) had different seat-stay tops with raised letters reading "Bianchi". And around 1979 they went to brazed-on top-tube cable guides. So I think '77-'78 is a pretty good bet.

The models with Valentino were a lower level frame with stamped drop-outs. Actually, if your frame has Campy drop-outs it may not be a Rekord model. Maybe something in between like a Campione d' Italia? You are sure the fork has Campy drops as well, right?
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Old 03-06-11 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Otis

The models with Valentino were a lower level frame with stamped drop-outs. Actually, if your frame has Campy drop-outs it may not be a Rekord model. Maybe something in between like a Campione d' Italia? You are sure the fork has Campy drops as well, right?
I have a pic and the rear dropouts have campagnolo in them, but the fork has bianchi stamped in them according to the owner. I fear this is a problem.

Would this indicate that the fork has been replaced from lets say a lower model like a rekord model assuming it was a bit cheaper and had non campa dropouts.

So in itself it should not be a problem by just the name on the fork dropout as nobody will see the fork one, but would the fork crown be similar too.
In a way that the experts could see from the fork crown that the fork and frame would not match.

I fear it would not make the bike authentic anymore which for me would become difficult in making a deal with the current owner as i'm a true sucker for originality/authenticity.


Tell me i'm wrong and to go for it.
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Old 03-06-11 | 10:06 AM
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Perhaps having a good look at my Bianchi 848 will help...


However, my 848 had Gipiemme drops, not Campagnolo.
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Originally Posted by BG2
I have a pic and the rear dropouts have campagnolo in them, but the fork has bianchi stamped in them according to the owner. I fear this is a problem.

Would this indicate that the fork has been replaced from lets say a lower model like a rekord model assuming it was a bit cheaper and had non campa dropouts.

So in itself it should not be a problem by just the name on the fork dropout as nobody will see the fork one, but would the fork crown be similar too.
In a way that the experts could see from the fork crown that the fork and frame would not match.

I fear it would not make the bike authentic anymore which for me would become difficult in making a deal with the current owner as i'm a true sucker for originality/authenticity.


Tell me i'm wrong and to go for it.
Yeah, I'm sorry I told you the fork was correct. I spaced out on the Campy drop-out part. A Rekord would have "Bianchi" stamped on the front and rear drops. Having Campy rears would make this a better model frame than a Rekord, but that it is for sure a Rekord fork.

The correct crown would have a raised "B" with a circle around it like the seat-stay tops.

The good news is the frame is a higher level, may even be a Reparto model. But the fact that the fork has been replaced is never good. If it's something you are considering buying I would probably pass. There could be front end damage and finding a correct fork will be difficult at best.
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Old 03-07-11 | 01:23 AM
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Boy, am i glad to hear that is is not right after all.

No problem as nobody is perfect and i will in a few minutes contact the owner and let him know that the deal is of at least for me.

Again BF and it's members proved to be a invaluable source of info preventing from buying a 'cat in the sack' as we say over here.

Thanks all.
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