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Old 03-26-11 | 08:21 PM
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Bottom bracket identification.

I was told by someone in in the bike mechanics section that some French bikes have a Swiss threaded bottom bracket cup which would mean the fixed cup is left-threaded. I read on Sheldon Brown's website that French and Italian bikes are both right-threaded. I am having trouble removing the fixed cup using the bolt and washer trick and want to make sure I am going the right way. Is there a way to identify whether or not the bottom bracket is Swiss or French threaded?
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Old 03-26-11 | 08:29 PM
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there are always exceptions to the rule. I have learned here, and I am not expert, Peugeot changed from French to Swiss for a short period before going to English.

I have Italin built Bianchis, and a Cornelo that English BBs the only way to know for sure is to check it.
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Old 03-26-11 | 08:36 PM
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Everything on the bicycle is French-threaded. So if that is the case there would definitely not be a Swiss-threaded bottom bracket cup right, or is it possible for it to be Swiss-threaded by itself? When I first tried to remove the cup and it did not budge my first thought was that it must go the other way, but either way I am going to have to use a jack handle to remove this thing. I don't want to do that though if I am turning it the wrong way.

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Old 03-26-11 | 08:49 PM
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Is the bottom bracket a Stronglight? According to Sutherland's Swiss-threaded Stronglight DS cups have no rings and eight sides. Or any markings on the DS cup? If it's marked 35 x 1G, it's Swiss.

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Old 03-26-11 | 08:51 PM
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Swiss bottom bracket cups were used on Peugeots between 81 and 85 but not universally... are there any external stampings on the bottom bracket ?

If you have removed the non drive side cup and can look inside the shell you should be able to see how the internal threads are cut.
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Old 03-26-11 | 09:01 PM
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I know for a fact the bike is a 72. There are no stamps at all on the bottom bracket. I think what I am going to do is use a pick to try and follow the threads inside of the cup and see which way they go up. Once I find out which way it turns is it safe to use a breaker bar to break the cup loose. I really do not want to damage the frame.
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If it a '72 you will not find a Swiss threaded cup but keep in mind that it may have been there since 1972... penetrating fluid is a great tool to free up seized parts.
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Old 03-26-11 | 09:38 PM
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Okay thanks. I am actually letting it soak in penetrating fluid right now.
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Old 03-27-11 | 09:52 AM
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Why do you need to remove it at all? Is the race pitted?
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