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Old 04-25-11, 07:16 PM
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Quick Paramount question.

They weren't made with regular "cro mo" were they? Someone practically down the street has one for sale, but it's got a "cro mo 4130 double butted" sticker on it.
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It could be one of the very lower PDG models...PDG2, PDG3... Are you looking at this beast by chance? If so this is no Paramount. Probably a World Sport or something along those lines. The location of the dt shifters and the chainstay brace is a dead give away. Plus the 4130 chromoly sticker is a give away also.
https://janesville.craigslist.org/bik/2345934634.html
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That's a LeTour, not a Paramount. Sellers can call their bike whatever they want. Caveat emptor.
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Old 04-25-11, 08:36 PM
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Actually, not that one, but it has the same sticker! This one is here in Madison and in kinda rough shape, but would have still been cheap for a Paramount. It says Paramount on the DT, but that's about the only thing Paramount about it.
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Maybe someone in the area decided to try to make some money on fake Paramounts?
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I don't know of any 4130 Paramounts. PDG Series were Tange OS
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It sounds like it's a "decal" Paramount. What's the serial number?
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I have no idea what the serial number is, nor do I think it's even worth it to go ask the person if I can find the serial number and get back to them. As I said, I think the only thing Paramount about it is the stickers on the DT. I do know the parts group isn't what I'd expect of a Paramount. What looked like 80s Shimano 600 with newer Shimano brakes. If you guys want I can try to check the bike out tomorrow, but I think it would be a waste of time.
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https://janesville.craigslist.org/bik/2345934634.html

I've not seen a Paramount with shifters on top of the down tube. And, is that a kickstand bolt I spy in the second picture?

I believe it is a champagne 1984 Le Tour Luxe. https://bikecatalogs.org/SCHWINN/1984...1984Ltwt09.JPG

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On very large Paramounts (over 26-in.) from the 70's, 4130 Chrome-Moly was used for the seattube and downtube. That was straight gauge, and not relevant to the bike the OP is referencing. But thought I'd toss it in FYI.
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I was going to say an 84 Voyeuger but I'm not sure...wouldn't a Le Tour have had a half chromed fork?

edit...just looked at the ad. Nevermind. I've got a voyageur frame in that same color and the resemblence is remarkable. Definately no Paramount...

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