Standless stand?
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Standless stand?
Hmm, I do not see a Tools sub-forum on BF, so why not ask here? 
I guess I'll be swinging wrenches more that I have in some time -- on bikes, that is. OK, I've done my share of living-room-floor work, but would like to do better. I do have a workshop in my basement now. In the middle is a steel pole; I enclosed it w/wood when I built out the workshop. You know, it's the perfect pace for a shop stand. I recall when I worked in a shop in the mid-70's, one variation of the Schwinn (by Park?) shop stand was not free-standing but was bench-mountable (probably $$$ and heavy). Is there something like that today? I don't mind a bit of household fabrication to mount it. Plus, maybe I need to reinforce where I'm going to mount it althought it's unlikely I'll be tackling any Varsities or Continentals.

I guess I'll be swinging wrenches more that I have in some time -- on bikes, that is. OK, I've done my share of living-room-floor work, but would like to do better. I do have a workshop in my basement now. In the middle is a steel pole; I enclosed it w/wood when I built out the workshop. You know, it's the perfect pace for a shop stand. I recall when I worked in a shop in the mid-70's, one variation of the Schwinn (by Park?) shop stand was not free-standing but was bench-mountable (probably $$$ and heavy). Is there something like that today? I don't mind a bit of household fabrication to mount it. Plus, maybe I need to reinforce where I'm going to mount it althought it's unlikely I'll be tackling any Varsities or Continentals.
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Yes. Park Tool makes a number of bench/wall mount stands.
I have a PCS-12 I use to mount a frame jig on an engine stand. It's very robust and not too expensive.

I have a PCS-12 I use to mount a frame jig on an engine stand. It's very robust and not too expensive.

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Tiger how sturdy is the wood around that pole? I wouldn't bolt a bike stand to just some 1x3 boards used to box in a pole.
Scooper wouldn't a normall workstand have been cheaper than an engine stand?

I know I know you already had the engine stand I just could not resist a little teasing
Scooper wouldn't a normall workstand have been cheaper than an engine stand?

I know I know you already had the engine stand I just could not resist a little teasing
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Nice frame jig.
To the OP. I'd just get a PCS-9 (or PCS-10 if you want to spend more money.) The bench-top stand costs nearly as much and then you have to mess around mounting it and can't use it anywhere else ever without a ton of messing around. The PCS-9 & 10 are so fold-up/portable that you can easily throw it into a trunk with room to spare and take it to a bike event.
To the OP. I'd just get a PCS-9 (or PCS-10 if you want to spend more money.) The bench-top stand costs nearly as much and then you have to mess around mounting it and can't use it anywhere else ever without a ton of messing around. The PCS-9 & 10 are so fold-up/portable that you can easily throw it into a trunk with room to spare and take it to a bike event.
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Nice - It will be interesting to see what modifications you make as you get the bugs out of it - Great job...
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That engine-stand idea is priceless! And I happen to have an engine stand. Alas, would take up a lot of real estate in the workshop.
I'll check out the links to Park. Hoping not to break the bank, but...
The wood I intended to attach to is 1x8 stock boxing in the steel pole, well anchored top and bottom (I built it all out after we had the basement excavated under the house). I could double up on the side with the stand, etc., but even leaning on it while removiong a fixed cup I just doubt the loads are that great and I'd risk it. Hmm, not hard to conceive a "collar" of 1X stock to help distribute the stresses.
I'll check out the links to Park. Hoping not to break the bank, but...
The wood I intended to attach to is 1x8 stock boxing in the steel pole, well anchored top and bottom (I built it all out after we had the basement excavated under the house). I could double up on the side with the stand, etc., but even leaning on it while removiong a fixed cup I just doubt the loads are that great and I'd risk it. Hmm, not hard to conceive a "collar" of 1X stock to help distribute the stresses.
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Park PSC-9 for $105 with free shipping.
The things this stand lacks over the $30 more expensive PCS-10:
The thing about a real stand is the ability to pull it around on the floor and to walk around behind it to work on the other side of the bike rather than having to dismount the bike and turn it around backwards. I can strip a bike down to the frame (including removing the cottered cranks, BB, and headset/fork) in less than 20 minutes usually in my PCS-9. I put the bike in the stand and leave it clamped the entire time. I can spin the bike around on the stand to any angle to access any part or walk around to the back to work on the far side.
The things this stand lacks over the $30 more expensive PCS-10:
- The quick-clamp head of the PCS-10 It isn't a hardship most of the time as it only takes 4 seconds to spin the crank to open or close the clamp of the PCS-9
- The bolt to raise/lower the stand is not a thumb-screw but a silly allan-head bolt. this can easily be fixed with a longer thumbscrew to make it much more handy.
- The legs don't snap together when you fold up the stand. I use a big blue wide rubber band (came on a bunch of Broccoli from the supermarket -love these indestructible rubber bands) to hold the legs together when folded
The thing about a real stand is the ability to pull it around on the floor and to walk around behind it to work on the other side of the bike rather than having to dismount the bike and turn it around backwards. I can strip a bike down to the frame (including removing the cottered cranks, BB, and headset/fork) in less than 20 minutes usually in my PCS-9. I put the bike in the stand and leave it clamped the entire time. I can spin the bike around on the stand to any angle to access any part or walk around to the back to work on the far side.
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Make a bench around your post, then mount a Park PCS-12 ($92 on Amazon) on it. Once you're done with that, cut some of the cladding away from the post above the bench that you made, and make a cylindrical tool caddy that spins around your post. Shop on a pole!
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+1. I would get a free standing stand instead, much more flexible, and better resale.
I would just monitor CL for a deal on a used stand, I have bought several this way as I upgraded from a really cheap stand to a couple of PRS2s now.
Depending how serious you get about wrenching, you probably will upgrade a few times.
I would just monitor CL for a deal on a used stand, I have bought several this way as I upgraded from a really cheap stand to a couple of PRS2s now.
Depending how serious you get about wrenching, you probably will upgrade a few times.
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why not mount a park repair stand from the ceiling joists, upside down? that way there isn't a pole getting in the way of the bike and you can move all around. I have always wanted to do this, just never had the space for it.
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Yikes! Neat idea and the kind of craziness I go for, but household projects (1949 house) is one reason I don't ride much now!
Makes perfect sense IF I ever sold anything.
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Some logic in this, and the hole needed to be cut in the drop ceiling not all that big. Might eat into useable space in the shop for non-bike work, however. I guess I could also use it to hold a feed roller for the table saw...
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