C&V helmets?
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So let's change the thread and make it one that matters.
Is there a helmet that looks good with a C&V bike?
I wear a Giro Indicator but I don't think it is an aesthetically pleasing helmet at all.
Is there a helmet that looks good with a C&V bike?
I wear a Giro Indicator but I don't think it is an aesthetically pleasing helmet at all.
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+1. Personally I think there should be a waiver that states if you're in an accident, and need medical attention that a helmet would have prevented, you will receive no public funds at all for your medical care, in any circumstance. You should also be required to be an organ donor.
...and neckbraces
...and hip pads
...and while driving a car - that's dangerous.
...and when sailing -
...and skating
...and skiing
YEAH - no helmet threads in C&V.
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i don't wear a helmet.. in california there is no helmet law for adults, and really the only people you see wearing helmets around here are roadie "spandex warrior" types. even most kids don't wear helmets even though it's supposedly the law.
I kinda view helmets more as clothing than part of the bike.. so unless you're decked out in all c&v clothes, i don't see the point in looking for a c&v helmet.. helmets aren't really c&v anyways.. i mean before the 90s were helmets commonly used at all?
I kinda view helmets more as clothing than part of the bike.. so unless you're decked out in all c&v clothes, i don't see the point in looking for a c&v helmet.. helmets aren't really c&v anyways.. i mean before the 90s were helmets commonly used at all?
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Big Helmet(tm) wants EVERYONE to buy one of their magic force fields. That's why they "give" so much of their profits to to "bike safety" programs (95% center around helmet use).
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I still like my idea of turning this into a thread about aesthetically pleasing/slightly more c&v appropriate helmets.
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Personally I think there should be a waiver that states if you're in an accident, and need medical attention that a helmet would have prevented, you will receive no public funds at all for your medical care, in any circumstance. You should also be required to be an organ donor.
What you have is a small group that shout loudly about the evil helmet industry and are perpetually spoiling for a fight.
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What you have is a balancing act between a person's right to be stupid and the public's interest in not funding stupidity.
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Agreed...deleting.
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Why? The guy asked a question. If you can't answer it without starting a nasty ole A&S-style helmet thread, just don't participate.
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Or the thread can be moved to A and S.
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.. u got me
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I learned to ride a bike, as a kid, in the late 80s and we didn't wear helmets. But the mid 90s I was wearing a helmet cycling and rollerblading.
It's funny how some people who want to get rid of this thread will also contribute to the conversation. Maybe it's because I'm not an uber user of this forum, but I was happy to see the thread and am interested in the conversation, especially in how it relates to C&V bike riders.
What is the problem if the same thread comes up a few times a year? A message board is somewhat cyclical anyway. Sure, there is a community of people who socialize on a regular, long-term basis, but there are a lot of other users who come and go, or visit casually over the long term. Why not just ignore it?
It's funny how some people who want to get rid of this thread will also contribute to the conversation. Maybe it's because I'm not an uber user of this forum, but I was happy to see the thread and am interested in the conversation, especially in how it relates to C&V bike riders.
What is the problem if the same thread comes up a few times a year? A message board is somewhat cyclical anyway. Sure, there is a community of people who socialize on a regular, long-term basis, but there are a lot of other users who come and go, or visit casually over the long term. Why not just ignore it?
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See what I mean. I haven't started anything and am already accused... I've only said how it gets and that it should be locked down.
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I didn't know there was an evil helmet industry, either.
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+1. I also don't think one of those C and V leather hairnets is any better than no helmet. If you don't want to wear a helmet, on your head shall it be. Personally I think there should be a waiver that states if you're in an accident, and need medical attention that a helmet would have prevented, you will receive no public funds at all for your medical care, in any circumstance. You should also be required to be an organ donor.
In the '70s, essentially nobody wore helmets except racers (and by today's standard, they were unprotected as well). Where are all the news stories of all the brain damaged cyclists of that decade? Should be easy to find. Should be easy to show the cost to society of all those being kept alive in hospitals because their heads weren't protected when they fell off their bikes. Where's the data? It doesn't exist because it was as insignificant then as it would be today.
Fact is that the only authentic C&V helmet is a leather hairnet or no helmet at all. Both work just as good now as the bikes from the same period!
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yeah i learned to ride in the 80s as well.. they passed the helmet law in california saying kids had to wear a helmet in 1994, the year after i went into high school. I didn't ride bikes in high school, and then when i started riding in college i was an adult so i didn't have to wear one then either
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"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
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why? It has nothing to do with advocacy or safety unless we drag it into that gutter.
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"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
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I've argued with you before...I think highly of you. You're bright, funny and a good writer. I'm not going to change your mind and you're not going to change mine. I do however wish you many happy miles of safe riding.
-10. This is the kind of post that creates the contention around this topic. By this logic, all "public funds" should also be denied to those who unnecessarily risk their health and lives by eating too much. And no mention of the nanoscopic amount of "public funds" (if any at all) being spent on head injuries of bicyclists who weren't wearing helmets.
In the '70s, essentially nobody wore helmets except racers (and by today's standard, they were unprotected as well). Where are all the news stories of all the brain damaged cyclists of that decade? Should be easy to find. Should be easy to show the cost to society of all those being kept alive in hospitals because their heads weren't protected when they fell off their bikes. Where's the data? It doesn't exist because it was as insignificant then as it would be today.
Fact is that the only authentic C&V helmet is a leather hairnet or no helmet at all. Both work just as good now as the bikes from the same period!
In the '70s, essentially nobody wore helmets except racers (and by today's standard, they were unprotected as well). Where are all the news stories of all the brain damaged cyclists of that decade? Should be easy to find. Should be easy to show the cost to society of all those being kept alive in hospitals because their heads weren't protected when they fell off their bikes. Where's the data? It doesn't exist because it was as insignificant then as it would be today.
Fact is that the only authentic C&V helmet is a leather hairnet or no helmet at all. Both work just as good now as the bikes from the same period!
Responding is counter-productive to what is in the forum's interest.







