Scapin?
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Scapin?
I have a Scapin track frame, that i really don't know too much about. I know that it is Italian, and it has Columbus stickers, but they don't tell what model tubing it uses. It is blue with a chrome fork, and is lugged. Anyone have any info on older Scapin frames?
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If there is no tubing type on the Columbus decal, then it is probably mid-1970s or earlier. If you post or send a picture, it may be possible to narrow the era by the decal style, lug cutouts or paint.
I bought a Scapin road frame in 1974. The brand is not widely distributed, but it goes back to the late 1950s. They do have a website, but there's not much on history.
Mine does not even have a serial number. The only numbers stamped on the frame are the frame size. However, the workmanship is very nice and it handled impeccably. I have to say that it was my favourite bicycle, even though I'm partial to Canadian products and Miyata. The frame lasted me 15 years, until the seat tube fractured, just above and into the bottom bracket shell. Due to the shell damage, framebuilders said that they would not repair the frame, because it could not be safely ridden. However, I was interested in restoring it for sentimental values and eventually found a framebuilder who replaced the tube and repaired the bottom bracket. The frame has been primed and will be repainted in the spring. After completion, it will be refitted with original components, hung on the wall and admired as the piece of art that it is.
I bought a Scapin road frame in 1974. The brand is not widely distributed, but it goes back to the late 1950s. They do have a website, but there's not much on history.
Mine does not even have a serial number. The only numbers stamped on the frame are the frame size. However, the workmanship is very nice and it handled impeccably. I have to say that it was my favourite bicycle, even though I'm partial to Canadian products and Miyata. The frame lasted me 15 years, until the seat tube fractured, just above and into the bottom bracket shell. Due to the shell damage, framebuilders said that they would not repair the frame, because it could not be safely ridden. However, I was interested in restoring it for sentimental values and eventually found a framebuilder who replaced the tube and repaired the bottom bracket. The frame has been primed and will be repainted in the spring. After completion, it will be refitted with original components, hung on the wall and admired as the piece of art that it is.
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I have driven by the Scapin shop many hundred times. They are located on the strada statale 11 (state road 11) that runs between Treviso and Vicenza. They have been building frames and bikes since 1957. They are quite well regarded in Italy. You may recall that during the running of the 100th anniversary Tour de France that a bike that supposedly had belonged to Fausto Coppi was put up for auction. It sold at a much lower price than expected, because Scapin had fully 'restored' the bike, thereby removing any link to the campionissimo. Had the bike been left as it was, it would likely have sold for a very significant price. As far as a bike only having a generic Columbus decal, this doesn't say much about the age or the type of tubing used in the construction (apart from the maker of the tubing). It could be almost anything as decal envy was rarely a feature of Italian bike builders. It is only really in the last 20 years that consumers have been hoodwinked into believing that the tubing is more important than the builder. Just be happy that the bike is a Scapin, don't worry about the type of tubing.
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Bikes: Scapin (2), Mondonico, Eddy Merckx, Pinarello
I have two Scapins from the mid-'80's. My first one was purchased from a triathlete and was pretty rusty. I sent it out to Joe Bell in San Diego who did a fantastic job restoring the frame. It's still one of my favorite rides. I have six road bikes and just recently found another Scapin, exactly like the first one...I snatched it up. The mid-80's Scapins were chromed all over with a colored varnish finish...they really shine in the Florida sun.
The lugwork, engraving, tube design and geometry are great. The bikes track wonderfully. I only wish there was more information on these vintage Scapins. I do all my own work on my frames and can tell anyone that, inside, Scapin tubes do not show rust. I know that Scapin rust proofs its current frames. It appears that they may have done so with the older ones as well.
I rotate all my bikes and ride an Eddy Merckx Team SC (full record), Colnago Classic (Full Super Record), Mondonico ELO (Full Super Record) and an old Guerciotti Allen Frame (Full Super Record). I can absolutely verify that the Scapins ride as well, if not better than all of them...especially in the wind, which we have a lot of in Ft. Lauderdale. My Scandium Eddy is much squirrlier when its blowing and on windy days, I like to pull a Scapin out.
The lugwork, engraving, tube design and geometry are great. The bikes track wonderfully. I only wish there was more information on these vintage Scapins. I do all my own work on my frames and can tell anyone that, inside, Scapin tubes do not show rust. I know that Scapin rust proofs its current frames. It appears that they may have done so with the older ones as well.
I rotate all my bikes and ride an Eddy Merckx Team SC (full record), Colnago Classic (Full Super Record), Mondonico ELO (Full Super Record) and an old Guerciotti Allen Frame (Full Super Record). I can absolutely verify that the Scapins ride as well, if not better than all of them...especially in the wind, which we have a lot of in Ft. Lauderdale. My Scandium Eddy is much squirrlier when its blowing and on windy days, I like to pull a Scapin out.
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Hey Scapin guys,
i'm kinda new around here and trying to find abut a little bit more about my new italian bella: https://www.chermin.com/scapin/
hope you can give me some answers on year it was built and stuff like that... thanks in advance!
i'm kinda new around here and trying to find abut a little bit more about my new italian bella: https://www.chermin.com/scapin/
hope you can give me some answers on year it was built and stuff like that... thanks in advance!
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Originally Posted by serialcee
Hey Scapin guys,
i'm kinda new around here and trying to find abut a little bit more about my new italian bella: https://www.chermin.com/scapin/
hope you can give me some answers on year it was built and stuff like that... thanks in advance!
i'm kinda new around here and trying to find abut a little bit more about my new italian bella: https://www.chermin.com/scapin/
hope you can give me some answers on year it was built and stuff like that... thanks in advance!
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Thanks TMars, helsp alot, i'll see if i can take a decent right side picture soon... I noticed that i have to replace the brake pads, but these are way old school, anyone know a online shop (that ships to Europe) with decent replacement sets for an old gruppo like this?
Thanks!
Thanks!
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I have a vintage Scapib bike that was given to me by my aunt. It belonged to my uncle who rode in the 80's-90's? I don't know the details on this bike but was hoping perhaps someone does. I've included a picture ..

Last edited by phillytola; 09-15-12 at 09:18 PM. Reason: no picture
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She's ready for her close-up

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Hello Phillytola welcome to the forums. Scapin (normally pronounced with a long O like Scopin) are nice bikes. I can't say for when this was bult but the brakes, shifters were installed after 1989 as that is when the Athena component line was introduced.
Can you post some more pics of the bike from the chain side? is there a sticker on the frame below the seat that says something like Columbus? Oria? Tange?
Hello Phillytola welcome to the forums. Scapin (normally pronounced with a long O like Scopin) are nice bikes. I can't say for when this was bult but the brakes, shifters were installed after 1989 as that is when the Athena component line was introduced.
Can you post some more pics of the bike from the chain side? is there a sticker on the frame below the seat that says something like Columbus? Oria? Tange?
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Bikes: 1986 Alan Record Carbonio, 1985 Vitus Plus Carbone 7, 1984 Peugeot PSV, 1972 Line Seeker, 1986(est.) Medici Aerodynamic (Project), 1985(est.) Peugeot PY10FC
Yes, really stunusual frame there....... The BB shell looks conventional with points on it going over the frame tubes, but the head tube almost seems to be one piece with straight seams at the TT and DT tube connections (similar to how it is with Vitus 979s and Carbones). Similar seems to be happening with the seat cluster. The fork seems to be a conventional chromed steel fork though, with a nice sloping crown. Curious too on what the tubing might be.
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I got this one a couple of months ago. It's a really well-made, great riding bike. I need to freshen the wheels up a bit and bush the rear deraileur. It's a very solid climber and made of a slightly heavier tube set. This is how mine looked when I got it. The paint was ruined when the owner tried to remove the stickers.
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Very Pretty
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Indeed. My eldest son owned that bike for a couple years, but never used it very much, as he thought it was in fact TOO pretty for his way of treating bikes. So now it has once more been sold on.
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Can anyone help with the year or medel of this Scapin. Campagnolo derailleur, brakes, pedals with leather shoe straps, brake handles, and shift stems. The rims are Aero Dynamic, Ambrosio 19 Durex. The seat is a Concor in white leather. The handlebars are covered in white taping.

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Nice looking Scapin. I agree on the group but it could just be an upgrade or replacement on the rear derailleur, everything else looks liek Victory to me.

Is there anything the frame that says what the frame material is?
Is there anything the frame that says what the frame material is?
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Vintage Scapin Road Bike
Hi guys,
Does anyone have any details or thoughts on this bike?
I just purchased it and ive never owned a Scapin before.
Im guessing form the groupset its from 1987-1990?
Im currently awaiting its arrival from Austria.
Any info or opinions are greatly appreciated.


Specs:
Scapin KS•25 Road Bicycle in top condition
Columbus Nivacrom frame tubing with Scapin engravements on seat-stays & drop-outs
Chromed Columbus fork with Scapin engravements on fork crown and drop-outs
3ttt stem & handlebars
Campagnolo Chorus 1st Gen. brake levers (aero & non-aero version)
Campagnolo Chorus 1st Gen. Monoplaner
Campagnolo Chorus 1st Gen. downtube shifters 2 x 8 spd
Campagnolo Chorus 1st Gen. crankset
Campagnolo Chorus 1st Gen. front derailleur
Campagnolo Chorus 1st Gen. rear derailleur
Sachs Success hubs (Made for Sachs by Campagnolo)
Miche seatpost
NOS Selle San Marco HDP Saddle
Does anyone have any details or thoughts on this bike?
I just purchased it and ive never owned a Scapin before.
Im guessing form the groupset its from 1987-1990?
Im currently awaiting its arrival from Austria.
Any info or opinions are greatly appreciated.
Specs:
Scapin KS•25 Road Bicycle in top condition
Columbus Nivacrom frame tubing with Scapin engravements on seat-stays & drop-outs
Chromed Columbus fork with Scapin engravements on fork crown and drop-outs
3ttt stem & handlebars
Campagnolo Chorus 1st Gen. brake levers (aero & non-aero version)
Campagnolo Chorus 1st Gen. Monoplaner
Campagnolo Chorus 1st Gen. downtube shifters 2 x 8 spd
Campagnolo Chorus 1st Gen. crankset
Campagnolo Chorus 1st Gen. front derailleur
Campagnolo Chorus 1st Gen. rear derailleur
Sachs Success hubs (Made for Sachs by Campagnolo)
Miche seatpost
NOS Selle San Marco HDP Saddle
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If it is a Columbus Nivacrom frame, that would put it no earlier than 1991. The first Nivacrom tubeset was MAX (1988) but it obviously isn't MAX, The next Nivacrom tubeset was 1991's EL. However, the style of the tubing decal on the fork is pre-1988. If it's OEM, then the tubest is most likely SLX or TSX, based on the frame fittings. This will require some more investigation after you receive it.
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Hello Frank11, Welcome to the forums. Interesting looking bike any closeups? I agree about the tubing and dating if it is a Nivachrome it is later than '91. I never heard of Sachs making hubs for CampI maybe the other way around?

I guess since these are the seller pics the QRs are intentionally left open? The adjuster barrells and pads/holders make these look like later model Monoplanors like a Veloce unless they are replacement parts.
I guess since these are the seller pics the QRs are intentionally left open? The adjuster barrells and pads/holders make these look like later model Monoplanors like a Veloce unless they are replacement parts.
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More pics can be seen here on the eBay listing here https://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewi...672&cmd=VIDESC
Very interesting to know about the tubing what signs will tell me of the exact tubing used when I receive it?
Also does anyone have any details on this paint splatter effect used? Is this paint job original? I'm really hoping it is!
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Interesting, this tubeset must be drawn for Scapin.

This spider web is very late '80s earlt '90s.

I see what is up with the front brake, the rubber ring is just missing. These however are not, despite the sellers best intentions, not first gen Chorus brakes. You can clearly see the Veloce on the rear brake.

This interesting the delicate front luggs but almost a luggless type setup here for the seat binder/stay junction.

IMHO the most beautiful cranks and RD Campagnolo ever made.

I never had the nerve to try one of these on the B/B setting and runa wide range FW but maybe on my next build.

Beautiful bike, very clean. I hope it rides as good as it looks.

This spider web is very late '80s earlt '90s.

I see what is up with the front brake, the rubber ring is just missing. These however are not, despite the sellers best intentions, not first gen Chorus brakes. You can clearly see the Veloce on the rear brake.

This interesting the delicate front luggs but almost a luggless type setup here for the seat binder/stay junction.

IMHO the most beautiful cranks and RD Campagnolo ever made.

I never had the nerve to try one of these on the B/B setting and runa wide range FW but maybe on my next build.

Beautiful bike, very clean. I hope it rides as good as it looks.
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